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anonymouschico
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Idea for PCM Synth

Hello everyone.
I have this idea, I don't know if this sounds interesting but I'm going to share.
The idea is: since PCM Synth allows for resampling one or more samples and map them to a keyboard, also allow to use regions inside a single audio file, then map them to keys as you would do in a BeatSlicer (like Shuriken - https://github.com/rock-hopper/shuriken), but unlike a regular BeatSlicer, keep the resampling on "empty" keys.
This would allow, in the same time, to alter the pitch of a sample region and obtain a stutter/recombine effect for a sample (eg, a vocal track).

Please, share your thoughts.

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I thoroughly recommend it. I

I thoroughly recommend it. I suggest, at first, you use the loop editor to set the start and end point for each slice as it's non destructive. Once you're definitely happy with the slices, you can use the import loop tool in the wave editor to trim away the unwanted sample data.

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Excuse me, this would double

Excuse me, this would double the work.
Wouldn't it be better to non destructively keep the sample and still have: loop points for sustain AND pitch alterations AND slicing?
This would be almost the same, except one should not become crazy along cuts and stuff.

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I talked to Rej about this

I talked to Rej about this more than a year ago. In his code it's not a trivial change to allow one referenced wav file to be the source of each samples parameters.

I have often though making a beatslicer app would almost be worth it. In that sense you are cutting up a wav(using the current constraints of Caustic currently) and then I would apply all the settings of pitch, pan etc to each channel and then slice the source wav and insert that into a pcm preset.

The gist would be that the original project slice file could be reloaded and then reexported.

It's one of many ideas I have had, I just don't know how popular selling it on Play would be, if it's worth the time.

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I certainly agree with adding

I certainly agree with adding features along these lines that would enable artists to do sample tricks such as this one. It seems that it wouldnt take too much to incorporate such features, & it would definitely add an appeal to would be caustic users. I myself am always kinda hoping that some additional features along these lines will soon be included that would be somewhat comparable to pc based daws, ya know? Really i dream of being able to utilize vst's, even if it required linking up an additional phone/ tablet to pull it off (actually the 2-phone-link-up is another major hope/dream of mine). Considering the substantial increase in current android cpu capability, I would imagine in a yr or 2 this will become more feasible! Anyway, keep up the excellent innovative work guys, i appreciate it immensely!

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Guys, I'm missing the point

Guys, I'm missing the point now.
I can't guess if you're sarcastic or not.
Would such a feature be really useless?
It's like you're fooling me, but, because I don't know you enough, I won't make assumptions.
Also note the quickest and simplest reply would just be yes or no, avoiding kidding peers.
If I'm wrong, instead, just tell me.
I were a moderate keyboard lion until recently, and following my old logic I could have began berserk and rude.
This is my past by the way, something I'm trying to change along many other bad habits I had.

But, let's focus on the thread and sorry for the ot.
Do you really think this could[n't] be useful?
State it clearly.

Edit: typos.

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If I were about to award

If I were about to award anyone in this discussion, he would be mike.

arj13082 were patently sarcastic, and this is the kind of people to avoid, because this kind of people can't do more than fool his neighbour.
I had a lot of flames with this pathetic kind of guy, resulting in a ban for me and nothing for the opponent, just because of the reputation he/she had at that moment.

Now, what am I supposed to reply to this idiot?
Should I pick his provocation and bury him with my shit?

No, I prefer to stay polite.
There will be, hopefully, a moment in which this kind of antropomorphic, living, undefined animal will fall right under theyr' own mass, collapsing.

Edit: Typo.

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P.S.: If instead I'm wrong

P.S.: If instead I'm wrong and I misunderstood arj, I apologize in advance and publicly as I done above.

The important point is to clearly state what did you meant.

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Hey,

Hey,

I am an app developer. I know Rej personally and already talked to him about non destructive wav slicing/editing, it isn't going to happen anytime soon if ever.

All I said is that I have thought about at the very least, making an app that was a wav slicer that could export to pcmsynth preset using a source/multiple source wav files.

Which I know, its not in-app but it's as good as it could get for now.

If this is getting lost in translation, sorry about that.

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No, indeed! a separate app is

No, indeed! a separate app is mandatory, no DAW support this natively (and I can't guess why), but they rather rely on smaller apps bundled with the DAW and, in some cases, you have to pay for.

I wouldn't mind paying some dollars/euros for this, and I'm grateful we have a vocoder (just to cite one) and lots of stuff which allows to do almost anything. Yes, I'm missing some features, but I still think this is the better mobile DAW I've ever come across.

For the records, I tried fl mobile, music studio, even mixtickl, and many more, the better quality/price/feature ratio is awarded to Caustic: no doubts.

Finally, if you really wish to do this, and assuming you've time and willingness to actually do this, I guess I wouldn't be the only grateful user here.

 

A side note to my previous thread: just for my flexibility, instead of having more effect slot in the mixer, I opted for Audio Evolution mobile, now I can export separate mixer tracks as wave/ogg/whatever, join them in AEM and do mastering, track by track and the whole mix.

Similarly, other feature I proposed, I thought another solution. In example, for layering more effects on a single track, I guess I can use the modular synth with the machine input and repeat once per free track I need.

This would decrease the plugin amount by the way, but I just do some minimal derived music genre, so this is ok.

Well, thanks anyhow for this interesting cultural exchange (I mean it, serious). One day I hope I'll drop the too much aspirations that pollute my head and learn well, one subject at a time, 'till I'm done.

Bye

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To the anonymous character a

To the anonymous character a few messages ago, I suppose flattery would be appropriate for your award. Unfortunately after reviewing the cited comments, I cant see where any sarcasm was applied, & seeing as we are all in league to construct & not destruct. I personally would be direct with constructive criticism while denouncing destructive communications i.e. sarcasm. & I really don't see the word "useless" or any of its analogs in play either. It seems as though you may have some things going on that are leading you to those possible conclusions, but allow me to assure you that in my experience, the Caustic community is one of mutual support in which I'm not afraid to put my own self out there with ideas that im unsure about with the confidence that I wont be trolled around, & you should feel likewise, my friend. Let's keep it about the music and bolster each other's talents!!!

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Ad I Said, I don't know you

Ad I Said, I don't know you enough to advance assumptions.
I caught sarcasm where maybe it wasn't, add a barbone, still good English, and presto.
So, at a barbone leve (yes or no), what do you think about my idea?