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Cyberdragon
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Joined: 05/03/2018 - 15:59
[request] Automation Snap-To-Grid

I've been using Caustic for several years now, but one thing I rarely use is the automated controls. The reason is the extreme lack of precision either moving them by hand or trying to move fiddly little dots around on the screen trying to get them to align. For example, I want to automate the stereo panning per note for 108 measures of mostly 8th notes, making sure they pan evenly left and right. The problem is there's no way to make sure they stay equal distance from the center, and it's hard to align them perfectly with the measures (either on touchscreen or a desktop VM). This also applies to any level controls that you want to move then return to the exact same position repeatedly or align to notes (which is possible but annoying).

Suggestions:

-increase the number of horizontal grid lines from 5 to 17 (including top and bottom) to allow for more precise alignment

-have a snap to grid toggle to allow rapid alignment of keys

JHSound
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Joined: 06/04/2015 - 11:21
Although I understand your

Although I understand your desire for preciseness, I think you overestimate the human ear's ability to detect the slight variations that might be introduced by the lack of preciseness caused by having to be "close enough". In the end, the ear, not an oscilloscope, is the judge and it is not that precise.  I've used automation a lot, for panning, filters, levels, etc. and I am convinced that any variation due to the lack of snapping will not only be unnoticed, it might even improve things.

 

Cyberdragon
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What about compounding errors

What about compounding errors causing drift? Say you have one effect that ends when the control turns back to a default setting (for that song, not the actual default). If you have another sequence that starts on that many measures down, if you don't line them up, the control will drift, and it can be noticeable if it's sensitive (logarithmic). Pitch shifts can be quite noticeable (they sound like WOW in a tape). The other thing is speed, it takes awhile of fiddling to do a few measures of a really complex sequence. If you could just click on crossing points instead of dragging little dots around, you could have the same thing done in seconds.

JHSound
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You probably know a lot more

You probably know a lot more than I do, but there can't be drift between two points in automation. It is a straight-line change from point 1 to point 2.  Yes, point 2 might not be exactly, precisely the same as point 1 but the transformation from 1 to 2 will be miniscule. None of the controls on the FX and most of the synths are quantified either so you really have no way of knowing an "exact" setting.  

lord_bondslave
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Gotta do this:

Gotta do this:

He's a snapdragon! Hehehe

But seriously ...

Copy and paste is your friend for all things automation. And I by far prefer to automate in song mode over pattern.

paulovski
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Add one more, temporary,

Add one more, temporary, keyframe in front of the automation you wish to move. Copy it. Delete it. Now, paste it just in front of this automation and include it in the selection that you wish to move. When you paste, all your automation will remain exactly as you want it. And then, you delete the dummy, anchor keyframe. Job done

kwfkaymfb
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Joined: 01/29/2016 - 14:13
Tap the timeline, press

Tap the timeline, press record, Move dial/fader/knob/switch