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Nosidel Montesino
Joined: 12/25/2013 - 15:54
Auto slice a sample PCMSynth

If a new update is coming I really hope that Rej make the pcmsynth a more dedicated instrument for the user that love to makes sample beats, like for example, adding a feature or the option for Auto stretch or auto sync to bpm, almost like what Rej did with the Pitch/Time tool in the sample editing window, well that feature or option should be included in the pcmsynth pianoroll window with the autosync option included, that will make it easy and less time consuming and straight to the point when working with sample... And also think that in the sample editing window should be included the option of Auto or manual slicer, the option to be able to select at less up to 16 individual parts of a sample without cutting the sample and be able to add each selected part from the sample to the piano keys without cutting the sample, almost like an MPC or like the fruityslicer in FL studio, Im really sure that every hip hop producer that use caustic will love that feature, it would be like having the MPC in your hands, I know I would love that, because I used to make sample beats on the MPC, but yes I know there is a work around that with the pcmsynth right now, but it takes a lot of time just to create 16 sample slices and adding each one to the keys in the pcmsynth , plus that basically takes the inspiration away, because the time that it takes just to do that,,, anyway i really think that would makes the pcmsynth a more complete instrument for the hip hop producer
Which I'm sure that Rej want to attract a every type of producers, and I'm sure more hip hop producer will love caustic for that, especially the mobile version, because with the mobile version you are able to catch the idea anywhere or any place, I know that's what got me fascinated about caustic mobile, I started producing with the MPC then I moved to the FL studio, for the fact of being more convenience and more on the mobile side, but then I came to the problem where I was somewhere where an ideas came to my head because I heard something that inspired that idea, but I wasn't able to grab the idea, because a laptop it's not really mobile, so I wasn't able to carry it with me everywhere, so I started looking for something that was capable of doing that, so that's when I came across caustic 3, and yes it made it possible in some way, (yes I'm addicted to using caustic☺) anyway I just want to be able to do everything in caustic without the need of using something else, so PLEASE Rej in the next update add that option to the pcmsynth, those options will make producing I caustic a more easy and a less time consuming work flow and will keep the inspiration pumping, and I'm sure that will make the pcmsynth a more complete tool for the real hip hop producer, when it come to making sample beats....
Anyway sorry for my english, English is not my official language

Joined: 12/26/2018 - 22:53
also, would be amazing to be

also, would be amazing to be able to make the pcm to change only pitch when selecting a new note not both pitch and speed

HDB's picture
Joined: 04/12/2013 - 19:39
I think it would be cool, but

I think it would be cool, but it would also be difficult to add the featured because it would probably use a lot of resources, specially since its a mobile app (im not a developer/coder so maybe im wrong). thats the reason the pitch/stretch tool takes a bit of time when you stretch a sample, so streching it automatically would take more time and resources. I've been messing around with samples too and maybe a good idea would be to be able to add markers on the sample editor to tigger with the keys, but this is kind of a niche feature which i think would not be considerd for an update in the recent future, but we can still hope.

Nosidel Montesino
Joined: 12/25/2013 - 15:54
I not a developer ether, but

I'm not a developer ether, but I'm pretty sure that don't or shouldn't take a lot of CPU resources, because the idea its already there in away, in pitch/stretch on the wav editing window, he just need to add that code in to the into the pcmsynth pianoroll window and also adding as new feature to the code a manual or autosync to bpm option, thats just a quick processing that shouldn't take any cpu resources!!

And about adding markers on the sample editor window to trigger with the keys on the pcmsynth was one the things that I was exactly talking about on my topic, and that also would be a great feature or option which shouldn't take any cpu resources nether because that's just a trigger!!

I also forgot to mention, background ghost notes on any instruments pianoroll in caustic that also can be great feature and BIG help for less time consuming on your work flow when creating melodys

Watch "S.L.P.GroundSoundMusic CAUSTIC MOBILE Instrumentals" on YouTube S.L.P.GroundSoundMusic CAUSTIC MOBILE Instrumentals: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKJjDuQ5TdeOCS19kHX2PJ-e942SNzfzh

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Joined: 11/02/2013 - 16:43
Realtime pitch / time

Realtime pitch / time stretching is processor intensive which is (as HDB said) exactly why it's on the wave editor not a real time effect. You can preview these in real time because you're only running that one thing (and I think it may be an optimised approximation of the final output), when you finally bake the sample it takes a second to actually do the fully rendered stretch, if you played a chord on the PCM you'd be doing at least 3 times the work. Now, that's not to say it's might not be viable on really high end devices, but it is unlikely to be viable on medium to low end devices, and premise of caustic has always been you can run pretty much any caustic file on any device.

I agree with being able to virtuually slice up a sample rather than have to actually save each of these as a sample would be handy. If memory serves this was to do with memory limitations / allocation and having to load it all in one chunk, I know Rej was looking at streaming directly from file so you would essentially have an audiotrack machine, but there were issues doing this on Android, if this is still the case I don't know.

Frankly though (and I mean this with no sarcasm or disrespect), speculating on what might or might not be is probably not wise, Rej will release a new version of Caustic when he's ready, these feature requests have been done to death for the past few years so I'm sure he's already got a pretty clear idea of what new features he'll be adding and what is and what is not possible... So just hang in there, enjoy the product as is, and when (if) we get a new version we can get all excited or sad about the plethora of features that have or haven't been added...


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Joined: 09/19/2012 - 06:13
And make a PCM template with

And make a PCM template with 16 (or more) blank, zoned, samples, so you don't have to keep reinventing the wheel.

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Joined: 09/08/2016 - 08:57
@PAulovski is right, that

@PAulovski is right, that preset should be there in the PCMsynth. ^^