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nvidia shield k1 tablet and caustic

Hi there, has someone some experience with this tablet and caustic ? the tablet specs. look very interesting compared to the price. but real world experience is what counts. thx in advance.

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Hi tomtoo

Hi tomtoo

I've got the previous gen nvidia shield tablet. Its almost identical to the K1. I'm very happy with it. Search the forum and you'll find me praising it or email me directly if you want lots of detail.

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The K1 will be my next tablet

The K1 will be my next tablet.  I first heard FPC praise it, looked into it myself, and then noticed that Google respects it also.  I'm not much of a gamer, but Caustic runs like a game, and I just tend to push my devices with my multi-tasking.  I considered the Nexus 9, but the larger screen wouldn't benefit me in the ways I usually use a tablet, and I like the better price value of the K1.

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thx fpc. caustic is my "must

thx fpc. caustic is my "must work perfect" app. if you say it works great than this is my next tablet.

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Yeah my mk1 Shield Tablet

Yeah my mk1 Shield Tablet runs Caustic beautifully. Never had a crash or a hiccup on 3.1, happily runs other stuff in the background at the same time too. The new K1 version is more or less exactly the same: same chip, no built in stylus (no biggy) and quite a bit cheaper (doh!!).

Both versions are getting / have got Marshmallow 6.0 too. Oh yeah USB host works really well so hooking up a USB keyboard via USB OTG cable is easy. Minimal latency too (on screen or external keyboard): better than my old Nexus 7 mk1.

Downsides?  Battery life is only ok really and its surprisingly heavy.

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Hi FPC ,

Hi FPC ,

so now its the first week with the shield k1 for me.

I updated directly to mm, looks like some people on nvidia forum have problems with the accu drain after update. I have no problems. For 200 € this is a nobrainer.

Thx for your answers. This was the right desiccion !

 

Edit says: i have a little noise on the headphone when i start a app. Just for 4..5 seconds. Its very low but could you confirm ?

 

 

 

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Yeah there is a mysterious

Yeah there is a mysterious background hiss on my tablet but it soon stops. Because it stops it doesn't bother me so I forgot to mention it. I can't really explain why/when it happens....actually I'll try it now....

 

...right Caustic app running, no noise. Open an email results in short 'blast' of hiss/noise which soon stops (2-3 seconds) back to Caustic no hiss.... is this the kind of thing you're getting?

I have no idea what is happening but I'm getting no actual noise whilst Caustic is running so I'm happy. Do you get any noise (thats not coming from a crazy modular synth patch or something) while Caustic is running? I don't.

 

 

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Thanks fpc!

Thanks fpc!

Exactly the same. Its not in caustic or other audio apps.

Only if i do something outside a audio app than its there for some seconds.

No problem just was wondering if its only mine.

 

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I realize I'm late, and it's

I realize I'm late, and it's been answered, but also wanted to chime in. I also use the original Shield tablet (well, refurbished because I had to send it off to get the new battery), and Caustic works great. I use a Korg micro-Key controller, and with the OpenSL ES implementation, and Android 6, I'm getting very playable latency. It's not super-low like my PC, but very very playable. Really happy about that, and I've started taking it to coffee shops again! As far as I can tell, the screen touch latency is pretty low too, so that's a plus!

(Now if only NVidia would fix the midi over USB access that's supposed to be part of Android 6)

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(Now if only NVidia would fix

(Now if only NVidia would fix the midi over USB access that's supposed to be part of Android 6)

J-Bot I'm not sure what you mean. What extra midi stuff was supposed to be in 6.0?

I've just used USB/MIDI to control Caustic with a Korg Nanokey and a midi synth (MS2000) with a MIDI to USB converter - worked fine.

Then I loaded up G-Stomper Studio and midi out and sync were both working fine.

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I just received my K1

I just received my K1 yesterday. My Nexus 7 often wouldn't charge anymore.

I'm loving the K1. Beautiful screen, snappy response in Caustic, and I actually chromecasted caustic to my TV and surround speakers. I love the dual front facing speakers on the tablet too. :)

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Honestly, I'm not sure what

Honestly, I'm not sure what the dedicated Midi over USB mode in the settings is supposed to do. I know we've had USB Midi via OTG cables, and plugging host-compliant devices directly in.

I think it may be to allow direct API access to the USB Midi function as being a built-in or direct functionality. Direct support vs. indirect support?  Here's a blurb on it:   https://www.midi.org/articles/android-midi-in-marshmallow   also:  http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/06/05/android-m-feature-spotlight-form...

So....I'm guessing, allowing direct access to midi over USB API or something?  It's more on the app development side, I think, to make things easier for music app developers to implement midi protocol without having to code every little nuance from scratch.

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man, this tablet looks sick!!

man, this tablet looks sick!! this will be my next purchase, so yall like how it works with caustic?? caustic is the main app i fuck with on my tablet, its mainly the only reason I have a tablet.

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It works great. But just to

It works great. But just to make sure I'm not misunderstood, I've never attempted to have intercourse with an app or my tablet.

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Intercourse?  We know it was

Intercourse?  We know it was you....lol!

 

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this tablet is sold out

this tablet is sold out everywhere!! it must be good..

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I see it has CyanogenMod

I see it has CyanogenMod available for it, too! I know what I'm saving for now. How does 3.2 beta and the mastering app hold up on it?

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Hi, i found this discussion

Hi, i found this discussion cause i'm looking for a tablet to use with caustic, mainly in live situations, with a midi keyboard. Has anyone tried it with android 7.0? on superpowerd it gets really good latency value, with the min values around 16 ms, and I would like to understand which one betwen this one and nexus 7 2013 (which gets around 50 ms on superpowered) is more playable live.

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Hi sdrummato

Hi sdrummato

​I'm still using this tablet, now on 7.0 and the latency now is fantastic. 

I suck at playing anything much live but I do use the on screen keyboard and and drum pads for live recording and can hardly notice any delay. I'm moving house at the moment and my USB keyboard is packed away so I can't test this but seem to remember it was great the last time I plugged it in.

The battery life isn't great on the shield tablet for live playing though.

 

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Thank you FPC! That's good to

Thank you FPC! That's good to know. Do you think battery would last at least one hour with only caustic open, and maybe a midi keyboard connected?

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Yes I'd think would get an

Yes I'd think would get an least an hour of Caustic and a USB keyboard... obviously it depends on current drain of the keyboard and just how CPU intensive your tracks are. I'd start to get very nervous with much more than an hour thought... god I hate playing live, good luck!

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just to compare how tablets

just to compare how tablets evolve over time - i've got this older lenovo tablet i found on net second hand for 30 euros ... and i have

no issues playing with caustics for hours and hours just to get few dozens of battery gone.