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The Telltale Silence
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Ducking.

Has anybody used automation to duck their kick drums instead of using a compressor? If so, how and did it work good. If anyone has an example project that they would be willing to share that would be awesome.

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Yep.  It gives you much more

Yep.  It gives you much more control, and saves a FX slot.  

I noticed I had to start the "ducking" before the beat, make it last for 2 or 3 measures and play around with the smoothness knob until it sounded right.  

A good way to check is to duplicate the automated machine and add a sidechained compressor (and remove automation).  Then you can do some A/B testing and exactly match whatever sidechain effect you want.  

Also works nicely if you want to tie the automation to other parameters, like the high pass filter

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Something I want to try now.

Something I want to try now.  Edgey did you mean 2 - 3 measures? That is the part I don't get because that seems a like a long time.

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Pattern automation is split

Pattern automation is split up into 32 points per bar.  So by measure I mean one of those points, i.e. a demisemiquaver. 

See attached 3.1 file (yay upload is working again)

Caustic Song file (optional): 

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Thanks, that makes more sense

Thanks, that makes more sense now, to me a measure and a bar mean the same thing.  If you mean 1/32 notes then extending 2-3 makes perfect sense.  Will check your file later and try some experiments.  Thanks.

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If not misstaken I think this

If not misstaken I think this was ask before. Idk. But I would check the forum for this else where. ((( No offense two Mr. edgey quick fixx.))) But Idk if u looking for more ideas of the same idea or what.

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Ok. Been busy. I'm going to

Ok. Been busy. I'm going to check out the file. Thank you for that. I'll comment again after I have had a chance to look at it.

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Thanks for the project Edgey.

Thanks for the project Edgey. That is the same as what I have done. Except the 32nd note before the beat.  I didn't do that. I tried it, it seems to work pretty good.  The smooth knob definitely changes how the sound behaves.  Has anyone tried using song based automation to the same effect? I'm curious which method may work better.