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Lu!G - el mosquito (Original Mix)[Minimal-Tech_House]

After a great amount of support in my X-mas Minimal-Tech track (JingleTechBells),I've decided to keep this style going and evolve it a bit more...

This one's very similar to it..same amount of energy but with a little more power and groove;)

Including dry percussion rhythm,a rising siren,a very deep low bass and those dub growls...but mainly..lots and lots of microdelays!;)

**Don't be scared of the mosquito..it will only buzzz your ears just a bit! XD

Enjoy and don't forget your feedback;)

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Dang those mosquitoes sound

Dang those mosquitoes sound like they're injected with steriods. Great job, like always!

...do you convert your tracks to mp3 first before uploading them to SC? SC completely destroys my cymbals.

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It depends on how you export

It depends on how you export your finalized audio.   I export my finalization from Caustic/Mastering at 32-Bit 44.1khz WAV, and take into Audacity for trim and encode to 256mbps MP3, of which goes into SC for streaming.    This method has worked for me for years for what I do here with this project.

That aside, This track rocks...... very nicely done, and great atmosphere created, fitting your title perfectly.

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I export in 16-bit and I

I export in 16-bit and I normally don't use Mastering. Is 256kbps SC's standard bit rate? I found some converters in the Google Play Store that might work. Or do I really have to take it to Audacity?

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I use 256kbps as my minimum

I use 256kbps as my minimum for an mp3....... it's easy on data and sounds rather decent (with a quality encoder of course) when downloaded or played back on your phone or car or whatever device the song sits on.

I've uploaded straight 16-bit WAV to SC before for direct streaming only, and the difference of streaming quality between the two is negligible at best... (I only upload the WAV to SC only if I restrict download capability)

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That's odd. There's a clear

That's odd. There's a clear difference between my stream and my 16-bit render, at least with the high frequencies. It annoyed me having to hear it after I uploaded the Power Rangers theme. I guess I'll have to follow your Audacity tip and see if it also works for me. I'm guessing SC's encoders aren't that good. Thanks, Jason.

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I'm wondering if it is any

I'm wondering if it is any devices or other audio gear you may be listening content on?   I've heard other users here talk about the same problems......   I listen to most peoples' Caustic tracks here for years, and have not heard anything that sounds like a bad audio stream, other than a poor mix or audio handling when rendering from Caustic itself.   .....or I'm just lucky.    My uploads to SoundCloud play back with virtually the same quality and fidelity as what I upload into it.

Is it possible that some phone data plans have some feature to automatically stream content at a lower revised bit-rate to be efficient on data usage for such users?

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I'm listening using a JBL

I'm listening using a JBL C300SI headphones. I just double checked. I rendered it on a bit rate, not 16-bit. Not sure what bit rate exactly. It's around 50 MB. There's definitely something different with the cymbals. It kind of slopes down to a lower frequency like there's a phaser applied to it. The vocals sounds different, too.

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I was actually researching

I was actually researching this issue before posting this track...ive also had the same problem with getting that "hd" quality in some of my songs..i know sc compresses your sound to 128kbps but what I don't get is why are most or should I say all of the top producers/artist's' songs have a super high quality sound even though the streaming is still in 128k format??
I found out that to get that high quality streaming sound is to upload a maximum 24 bit wav instead of mp3,of course with download disabled.
I followed this step when I uploaded this one...tbh I did get a better sound..im still a bit confused by this issue?

Thanks a lot Trigger and Jason for the feedback;)

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The short answer is that

The short answer is that loudness normalization eliminates the perceived "benefit" that high gain will have because if the gain is higher than the streaming services target, it will only get reduced downward to meet that target. Therefore, any processing used to allow you to make high gain mixes and masters is only damaging the audio unnecessarily. This means that now, more than ever, mixes with wide open dynamics will sound clearer and more musical than heavily compressed and limited mixes. - https://www.justmastering.com/article-mixingformp3.php

 

I got new audio gear etc. etc. and I noticed something different with 7.1 SS. Things get more normalized and sound less punchy and blasting and less harsh. It has to do with fitting the sound to the module specifications/registered settings.

In a scenario, that means you take a sound and input it into the machine. The sound gets effected by an effect.

It's their machine right. ;D

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I would also add this:

I would also add this:

128kbps = approx. 95% LOSS of content from your original audio file before it was encoded to that bit-rate MP3.   With that said, if your "normalization" is minimal or non-existent, and your dynamics mimics that of a CD (44.1khz PCM 16-bit redbook format), that can raise your noise floor considerably, as well as tear up your high-end, adding even harmonic distortion, thus nullifying your clean crisp high end that you were expecting, before you listened to the SC stream.

But I still wonder about data plans and associated audio streaming quality from SC, as a result.   I don't seem to hear the issues to the extent of some people are discussing on this (and other) threads.....

Very interesting topic, I'll have to investigate this, and see if there are methods I can share to help mitigate this...

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Hey LuiG, my bad manners for

Hey LuiG, my bad manners for contributing to steering this thread OT......sorry man....

This updated track is flippin' awesome, and very effective.   I like this update, that now can be enjoyed any time of the year.

I envision, that you are going to continue experimenting with things like this.   It seems that you are starting to finally find "your own sound" and starting to build on it.

I predict an album in the near future, and possibly one that you could put up for sale.... I think your work is just about at that point, the way you've progressed here over the past two and a half years you've been here (yeah I remember when you first came on board) wink

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Yeah, I also apologize. Great

Yeah, I also apologize. Great piece. Keep it up.

...and thanks for the tip.

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This means that now, more

..mixes with wide open dynamics will sound clearer and more musical than heavily compressed and limited mixes.

You're very right Phorsion!
When you over compress you don't let sertain frequencies breath correctly in the other hand,by adding a small amount of compression-limiting(that means not cranking up the volume) you will achieve a much wider and cleaner sound;)

Thanks a lot mates for this free teaching! :p
You don't have to apologize...it actually makes this thread more interesting and will also help many who don't understand how all this work..especially compression! But that's another thread I guess..

Jason is 100% correct! Haha
I totally forgot to add in OP that this is actually my first single from an upcoming album sooner than you think!
I have a couple more tracks in the making..including vocal remakes (have to think about the copyright content before release ofcourse).
But yeah,it's a great idea to have my very first album..might be a bit challenging to master it but I'm sure I'll be able to make it;)

Btw I have been here for about 2 years and 3 months to be exact! Heehee

Also..what does Phorsion have to say about this annoying a** mosquito?? XD

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I was ok with the mosx. I don

I was ok with the mosx. I don't search and listen to repetitive down-tempo banger vibes;  Early American Techno or something.

You did a good job with reloading the song anyway.

My first album was done out of love. It was hard to just be finished and satisfied. I'd say making an album is annoying as the mosquito.

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Wow, I got something right

Wow, I got something right around here?  

 

 

surprise

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I never got to answer your

I never got to answer your data plans theory. I don't think mine has some stream throttling. I contacted customer support and had to be passed to the supervisor for the question. Spent about almost an hour on the phone just to get a "No, we don't throttle your music streams." I'm guessing it has to do something about your music's size and data composition before you put it up.

Steering back to the main topic.... MOSQUITOES!!!!

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Great sounding track, again

Great sounding track, again it sounds crystal clear to me, good staging of the instruments, and agree it really brings to life your Mosquito...smiling in a good way

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Get it MOSQUI-TOES?! Lol

Get it MOSQUI-TOES?! Lol

Thanks once again Wellsley!
I've tried to make the mosquito sound as natural as possible! As a matter of fact,I didn't do much now that it's actually a 5d audio(DSR audio) sample I downloaded of youtube.
Very natural sounding..makes it stand out when mixed with all the stereo elements;)

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I made this about 5 years ago

I made this about 5 years ago..... mash a few notes together and add some stereo delay for a cool effect....

http://www.singlecellsoftware.com/node/804

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Usual crispy goodness. +1.

Usual crispy goodness. +1.

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Thanks a lot Sir. LAW!

Thanks a lot Sir. LAW!
Appreciate your support! +1;)

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Oh yes... I love those

Oh yes... I love those microdelays!...

Nice minimal feel, awesome bassline and gritty dub sounds!

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Danke vielmals EKT;)

Danke vielmals EKT;)
Microdelays are my specialty from now on!

Btw..Interesting preset Jason! I might fit it in one of my newest tracks;)

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