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Right Here. DnB

Kinda laid back. Lots of chopped up beats. Mike's Lil Drum Machine was responsible for some of the breaks.

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Nice track Paul. This was

Nice track Paul. This was pretty classic DnB for my taste.

Did you find anything that helped you write the breaks in LDM vs Caustic?

Was there anything that could make it easier?

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Good structured song, good

Good structured song, good quality.

But when you listen 1 minute of the song is like all the song is the same, If me, I put some crash kits and other sounds effects to make the song more dinamical.

 

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Thanks Mike.

Thanks Mike.

One thing that would have made a big difference here would be some kind of, Android based, automatic beat slicer. We should talk about this somtime. If it's technically possible, I reckon there's a pretty big gap in the market.
Not that I'm adverse to chopping things up manually in Caustic. With a bit of preparation, it really doesn't take very long to do and the results are well worth it.
A lot of my output is loop based and those loops have to come from somewhere, so LDM suits me down to the ground. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of twelve PCMs in a Caustic rack (For those that don't know, that's what LDM essentially is), but all the controls I generally want are right there in front of me. Nice and tactile. Did I mention velocity? LDM's killer feature in my book. Let's be kind here. Dealing with copious amounts of individual velocity settings is not exactly Caustic's strong point. Select a note, adjust velocity, select a note, adjust velocity, and so on. That's the way it is, but it's not ideal for drums. 100 velocity levels. In steps of five. That's twenty levels then really. That's a bit close to the bone sometimes.
With LDM, there are 100 velocity levels, with a big slider for each hit. You can hardly fail to humanise your hi hats with this thing.
I'm not on Mike's payroll.

Thanks for the comments, Brutal X. Your opinions have been taken on board.

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Ok, the beat slicer. Yes,

Ok, the beat slicer. Yes, this is actually feasible and maybe you read in another thread I was actually talking about doing one.

So are you just talking about a slicer that just chops a source wav into smaller wavs? Or adding effects to the slices and exporting?

I know I talked to Rej more than a year ago about how nice it would be to have non destructive wav slices but it is really complicated on his end code wise with what he already has.

So I have thought about doing it. I actually had a prototype of a SFXR app that had mutlilayers generated and you could adjust those layers left/right relative to themselves and them flatten the things into a single wav file.

I know if I did an app like this, I would have to use native android for performance and background processing but it's doable.

If you want to start a conversation sometime about it, by all means start one on my beta forum.

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That sounds pretty cool. I

That sounds pretty cool. I had read about this in another recent thread. I'll start a new thread once  gathered a few thoughts, but I don't think it needs to be to complicated, feature wise.

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This Dnb track sounds cool, I

This Dnb track sounds cool, I enjoyed the drum breaks

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Hey Paulovski, i dug your

Hey Paulovski, i dug your tune , i see what everyone us saying about the drumwork. Perhaps another set of drums running on top of your main pattern may hit the necessary polyrhythms to make the drums feel more random. The bass line was good however, the samples and instrument voicings could use a bit of work. I think its a great start. Id live the opportunity to help flesh out the tune a bit if you dont mind putting up the caustic file. I will upload my latest tune's caustic file you can check out how i chop my breaks using beatbox. Its the easiest and most authentic sounding method imo. You can grab my beatbox break instruments as well.

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Heres the tune. Ill start a

Heres the tune. Ill start a new thread as well

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Cool. Here's the file. Feel

Cool. Here's the file. Feel free to do what you like with it. It's the last of many incremental saves though, and most of the instrumental bits have been resampled. It's available, but I can't post all the files here.
The drums are intact though. It's my standard setup these days. A couple of PCMs processed and triggered by a modsynth. The drums on this track are far from firing on all four cylinders (barely three). That was more an artistic decision really. But give me a setup like this over any array of Beatboxes. If I had used Beatboxes to do this, I would have needed six of them. With six different piano rolls to juggle between. I wouldn't do that if I didn't have to.
I haven't trimmed the samples in PCM 1.

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word! got it, and I'm just

word! got it, and I'm just starting. I'll post whatever I come up with.

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