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frank.bosman
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Joined: 09/29/2013 - 10:01
Audio Tracks

Hello Rej,

Again thanks a million for the best app ever! 

I am still hoping for audio tracks to record vocal and guitar along with the many songs I created in Caustic last 7 years or so.

Is it at all possible in Caustic? I'm not a genius programmer like you so I don't know. Should I give up on this?

I found this tutorial https://youtu.be/uGkgFGNsGao . It's a nice workaround but not intuitive and very time consuming.

I don't want to move away from Caustic because all the rest of it is the best there is! And I tried a lot of apps.

Best regards,

Frank

SToons Music
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Joined: 03/01/2018 - 02:48
Place a fairly long, say 8

Place a fairly long, say 8 bar click like hi hats, before the song starts. Press Play. You now have 8 measures to open the menu, select Tools tab, open wave editor and select Record. You can now record about 5 minutes of audio. Generally I just strike a muted guitar string for 4 beats or count 1 2 3 4 before I play/sing so when I edit out the intro junk there's a very visible cue but it's not necessary. The reason I do it is because it's not uncommon that I start actually playing or singing exactly on beat 1.

Zoom in and delete the unnecessary intro stuff. Save. This allows you to get nice, long recordings, you don't feel like you're recording piecemeal which for me is the biggest problem... who records a good guitar track or vocals if you have to stop and start every 4 to 8 bars? Not me! That's probably the biggest issue using the PCM to record instead of the editor.

Subsequently you will need to edit the track and place in the PCM synth.

No. It's not a complete resolution to the issue but I think it's been pretty well publicly stated you won't be seeing a new version of Caustic in the near future so it's a decent workaround and probably your best option. If you learn to zoom and trim in the editor it can be quite fast, I can easily chop up and place a recording in the PCM in less than 5 -10 min.

A few examples done using that method:

https://soundcloud.com/stoons-1/stoons-music-buyyou-unfinished-rough-mix

https://soundcloud.com/stoons-1/stoons-music-suckerpunch

https://soundcloud.com/stoons-1/st-probably-zep-vinyl

https://soundcloud.com/stoons-1/st-dlo3

https://soundcloud.com/stoons-1/stoons-music-dadgad

https://soundcloud.com/stoons-1/stoons-music-apogeejam1

https://soundcloud.com/stoons-1/stoons-music-soulfood

Perhaps when I get time I can do a video tutorial if anyone wants. It's easy to loop record a solo or verse (etc.) as well, allowing you to record numerous takes in one single session so you don't have to disrupt the creative flow once you understand the process and get comfortable - it's really not much different than doing it in Cakewalk (Sonar), Logic, ProTools or whatever.

frank.bosman
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Joined: 09/29/2013 - 10:01
Wow SToons Music!

Wow SToons Music!

I listened to your examples and the sound awesome! And thank you very much for your reply! I just tested audio evolution and it's terrible as far as the interface goes.

Using the pcmSynth in Caustic I tried some audio but there is a delay. Maybe my galaxy tab A is too old to keep up?

I would be greatful for your instruction video. Maybe I miss a handy trick.

Thanks a lot!

SToons Music
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Joined: 03/01/2018 - 02:48
Thanks for the kind words,

Thanks for the kind words, always appreciated!

How are you recording and monitoring? I have to use the headphone jack to monitor and a USB device as an input for recording, that's the only way on my Samsung S6 phone I can do it. I imagine it would be similiar on any Android device. If I try to monitor using headphones or external speakers using the 1/8th jack and record using the mic built into the phone it doesn't work as the playback and input will both be recorded.

I have been using an older Apogee Jam for USB recording.

So let's figure out what gear you have at your disposal before moving forward, that will help me to give some options on how to record.

frank.bosman
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Joined: 09/29/2013 - 10:01
You reminded me of the iRig

You reminded me of the iRig UA I have and also gave up on. Installed an app for it and was playing all day. I think i got the hang of it now.

Every recording needs an adustment in the audio editor to align with the first beat but then it turns out pretty good. I need some practice...

I am very happy now. Thank you so much for your understanding, support and inspiration. I attached my produced audio tracks (bass and guitar). It took a couple of hours but that is just practice. 

Audio tracks were there all the time, you just need to look for it (sorry Rej). I still think a best practices video would be great. If i'm good enough, i'll give it a try ...

Thanks again !!!!!

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SToons Music
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Awesome news, that's great. A

Awesome news, that's great. A happy musician is a productive one. I'm looking at the iRig myself, the older Apogee has no way to monitor directly so I need an external mixer. Just on way way out to rehearsal so looking forward to checking out the track later tonight.

Cheers!

frank.bosman
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Guitars went well but i found

Guitars went well but i found that my singing is not at all on the first beat. So this is much more difficult than Cakewalk where it armed measures for audio tracks in the midi () bars. It is very, if possible at all, time consuming to do this. I will keep trying ...

The iRig is great but when changing setting you will first have to close Caustic, otherwise it will not produce any audio.

Thanks again for the uplift mofo party plan :)