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Simpleboy
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Clavinet sounds

I been hearing me some Steve Winwood tunes, and really like the clavi type bass sound he uses. 

Without samples, would it be possible to recreate that sound with a synth? 

I remember the Sega megadrive had some cool clavi bass sounds, so I guess FM synth would be best candidate to use?

I tried subsynth already , and the results were disappointing.

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I don't know yet which kind

I don't know yet which kind of sound it is because I know the name Winwood but not his music or sound.

Do you have a snippet of that sound or a youtube link where it can be heard?
 

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I've done a lot of clav

I've done a lot of clav-sounds on analogue synths in the past, I can give it a try with the Sub. Which part of the sound is most important for you low, mid or highs?

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You can get it on the

You can get it on the subsynth using the custom wave draw,I made some a year or so back I will try and find them

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Try tweaking this if you are

Try tweaking this if you are after a clav sound,hope it helps I haven't heard much Steve Winwood

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I don’t know what type of

I don’t know what type of clav sound your after but i suppose it’s the classic synthclav your looking for. A real clavichord is a little harder to emulate but I’m sure it can be done. I went for that funky Motown sound Stevie Wonder used on Superstition, that sound is also great for 80’s style reggae. Here’s the preset I made, feel free to tweak it to fit your trackswink

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A clavinet could be tricky to

A clavinet could be tricky to do in subsynth. A real 70's Hohner has a clicky attack and a sort of short pop on release. I also think FM synth is the best candidate, or with modular and then export to PCM to have polyphony. I have 2 PCM clav, one bright, and one mellow. Not bad sounding but missing the final 'pop'.. Will post them if needed. I also have a good VSTi, so I can sample it, but this is sample based Clavinet, not pure synth. 

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Hey, thanks for those presets

Hey, thanks for those presets. Both sound great in their own ways. 

Pan65 yours has that classic feel I had in mind, while Steves is more like the Megadrive sounds I rememebr.

 

Gharwen, if 80's synth music float your boat, then check out some Steve Winwood. My favourites are "talking back to the night" and "spanish dancer".

Cheers

 

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Skarabee, Id beinterested in

Skarabee, Id beinterested in those presets if your willing to share.

 

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Glad you liked it, there are

Glad you liked it, there are a lot of variants of the Clav sound and with type to use depends on how you’re gonna play it and what other sounds you got in your song. Personally I like the type with lots of high-end content that cut trough the mix like a knife. I think I’m gonna make a FM version to later on, if you modulate one of the operators with velocity you can get some nice funky stuff out of itwink

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I have a couple sound fonts

I have a couple sound fonts of various clavs.  If those don't pan out Logic has a dedictaed Clav soft synth and I could make samples from that..... If you don't mind a PCM version I will post something later

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Thanks for the offer of PCM

Thanks for the offer of PCM samples. 

I found I had already started creating a PCM preset some months ago, and forgot about it. I submitted it to the presets area. My first attempt, so I hope it is useable.

 

 

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I just finished a sampled

I just finished a sampled preset from one my VSTi and loaded it in PCM section too. Works well with FX: auto-wah, comb filter, short delay, cab sim...

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Nice PCM’s there guys,

Nice PCM’s there guys, Skarabee’s version got a nice clear tone while PlHawkey’s is a little softer but both sounds great.

I had a little fun with the FM during a coffee break yesterday and came up with a sound similar to a clavichord, not a clavinet but it should be easy to tweak it into a clavinet. I didn’t have time to compose something to play it with though, so I imported a midi file and let Bach have some fun with it instead. I think it sounds good but I’m not sure what impact velocity have on a real clavichord, I watched a couple of clips at YT but that didn’t help me much. I learned a little more about the instrument though, it’s cool hybrid of a guitar like instrument and a keyboard and what’s really cool is that you can bend the tone a bit and add some vibrato to. Next one I will try is the harpsichord and that one is even cooler since it picks it’s strings like a guitarist dowink

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Mega Drive/Genesis' music was

Mega Drive/Genesis' music was awesome in many aspects. I personally adore the RoboCop vs Terminator OST — its industrial music is pretty impressive, sounds great even today. And I have always been trying (unsuccessfully, alas) to recreate on FMSynth the Mega Drive guitar sound which can be heard on the opening theme of Road Rash 3.

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Is not a clavinet a plucked

Is not a clavinet a plucked keyboard instrument (played by keys of course) much along the lines of a harpsichord?    That drop-down effect of the key release as well as pickup settings' variance plays a role in getting a realistic tone?

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And can u not get a good rich

And can u not get a good rich tone from the fmsynth? Just curious if u take a good quality high pitch clavinet sound very rich in tone and merge it in pcm... Just a thought.

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Can't help getting the sound,

Can't help getting the sound, but I like the clavinet on this track:

Money Mark
"Have Clav Will Travel"
Mark's Keyboard Repair (1995)

And this one:

Platypus
"What About the Merch?"
When Pus Comes to Shove (1999)