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Random melody challenge

Soo,

The other day I watched some clips on Youtube and came across this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVqr3G8w60g

I thought it could be a fun exercise, so I wrote a tool in Excel to help generate some random notes. Then I realized that this could be something others might be interested in to, so I figured I might share the file with you guys/gals. Maybe we could even do a a challenge out of it just for fun.

So do I have any takers? The rules are simple…

You have to play the randomly generated notes in the order they are generated. At least the first round to establish the theme, later on you can improvise around the theme if you want. The goal is to place the notes in the grid so that they sound “good”. you decide when to play each note, how long it should be and how loud. When you have a finished song, post it in Show and Tell with the word “Random” in the title so every one know what it is.

Please note it’s not a competition so no one wins or something like that, it’s just a challenge.

If you want to use my Excel tool you can download it here…

https://1drv.ms/x/s!Am_wZqKT77JugaVi4wYMcOuvE-3Dcg?e=iywSyw

And here is the documentation if you need it…

https://1drv.ms/b/s!Am_wZqKT77JugaVlY6166P5Lk2pNXg?e=Yz5KO1

 

Good luck

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Ohh, I forgot to mention I

Ohh, I forgot to mention I already working on a song with random notes. I went with 16 notes for each theme and I chose the scale Harmonic Minor in the key of C, a little extra challenging for me since I don’t write songs in that scale normally.

I created 3 themes to work with and the notes I got is as follows…

Theme 1:

Eb, G, Eb, F, G, Ab, G, C, D, D, F, Ab, Ab, C, Eb, Ab

Theme 2:

Eb, Ab, C, B, G, D, Eb, D, Ab, D, G, Ab, Eb, Ab, C, C

Theme 3:

D, Eb, G, C, Eb, Eb, Ab, Eb, F, F, G, Eb, C, Ab, F, D

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This is very good approach.

This is very good approach. However, I might just skip on this one because I don't like to do anything rondomly. Rondom stuff are always 50% finished.
But if you really want to inspire your production try this method. Start on the mixer channel 1, for example, make something that sounds really good, then go to mixer channel 2, mute the first one, and try to ignore the Channel 1 totally. Keep doing this until you create all 14 elements. After that try to make a song with your set up. Hopefully, it will sound good. Or it will sound like rondom song.

Best of luck

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I like this idea a lot and I

I like this idea a lot and I can only hope to have the time to give it a try.  It isn't actually random, just the source notes. After that, it is all about creativity in using the random notes. Thanks!

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@Amel, well it isn't

@Amel, well it isn't completly random since the generator is locked to a scale. It's only the order of the notes that is randomized. And by the way, the tool I made may be useful in other ways since it is listing what chords fit in a patricular scale.

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You mean something like this?

You mean something like this? A simple tune using theme 3 in the first PCM. The second PCM uses the last 4 notes of the theme.

Also included a little joke at the end ;)

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I can't get the excel file to

I can't get the excel file to work on my phone, onedrive won't let me download. I'll need my laptop.

Got it. Looks excellent, the chords info is very handy. This may help me figure out harmonies and make some real music instead of atmospheres and industrial ambiences with the odd simple melody here and there. Thanks!

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I'm happy you like it IG, can

I'm happy you like it IG, can't wait to hear what you do with it. Meanwhile I am working on another file that contain more chords. I intend to use it to get out of my comfort zone. The file is actually working already but at the moment it is dependent on a function only avaliable in the beta version of Excell, so I eghther have to work around that or wait untill the function get released.

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Your spreadsheet is handy

Your spreadsheet is handy even beyond the randomizer.  I generated just a single theme of 16 notes and will see what I can do with it.

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You can actually get random

You can actually get random melodies in caustic with this little trick I discovered a couple of months ago. It has do do with how caustic chooses notes in a polyphonic pattern when polyphony is set to 1 or its a mono machine.

Normally the last note placed on a step is the one that gets triggered, but if you select all the notes, then copy them, delete them, then repaste them, they'll play in a different order every time.

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@JHSound, good luck.

@JHSound, good luck.

@UnclAfx, well it  never gets competly random. If ypu want real random try the modulars arpeggiator set to random mode, if you play all avalable notes from a scale at once it will randomly pick one and play it. But each note will have the same length and there will not be any spaces between them.