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Emorton1980
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Exported Track Sound Drop Outs

Let me start off by saying I love using Caustic. It has really taught me alot about music and synthesizers and it is the easiest way to make my own music because of its simplicity. Back in 2013, I was bored out of my mind one day and I was just going through apps on Google Play store and I came across Caustic 2. Just looking it over, I thought it looked fun so I installed it and instantly fell in love with it. Within a few days I had bought every soundpack and I couldn't stop experimenting with sounds and effects etc...I had no idea what I was doing but it was fun. Then I saw there was going to be a massive update when Caustic 3 was coming out. Holy Shit, it blew me away. Here's where I'm going with this. In the 5 years I've been using Caustic when I exported songs, they sounded amazing. I was so proud that I had a very strong grasp of everything especially for someone with no musical backround. Why I'm mentioning this is because I want to make it clear that I'm not a noob.But lately I'm finding my songs sound like total shit after exporting them. I've tried increasing the bit rate from 16 to 32, I've tried exporting with Ogg format instead of wav, I've narrowed the width settings individually for all synths in the mixer, but I'm still getting audio dropouts. It sounds so bad that its embarrasing. So, has something changed or is it just me.I searched this out but I really didn't see anything quite like the problem I'm having. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated and sorry for the long, rambling post. Thanks in advance

JHSound
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Hi there, totally agree with

Hi there, totally agree with you about Caustic.  I'm not that technical in my understanding but I'm sure those that are will need a little more info.  Since Caustic hasn't changed in a while, people would need to know the devices/equipment you're using, how you've exported and either a more detailed description of how the WAV file is distorted or even an actual example file.

I hope you can find an answer, I can imagine the frustration.

RobFarley
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I've been using caustic since

I've been using caustic since version 1 and I agree, it's a brilliant piece of software. Nothing has changed for quite some time (unfortuantely). So, I'm afraid it's you! 

You mentioned width, and width is an evil little control, especially if you're listening back on a mono device as it can cause phasing issues and potentially cancellation, personally I never ever use width on any of my tracks, if you want to give it some stereo width give it a hint of stereo chorus or reverb, keep the output pretty dry and you get a nice suble expanse. Other things that might cause drop out issues are compressors over compressing, especially in the master section if you've got individual machines running quite loud.

If you've not got the mastering app I would strongly recommend buying it. Then in caustic you keep your master section nice and simple, no compressors, swtich off the limiter and make sure you've got no clipping in your mix. Then export the wav and bring it into the mastering app.

In there you've got a far better compressor to get your loudness and the limiter looks ahead and isn't as "hard" as the caustic limiter.

You also have the Stereo Imager which is my go to effect, this allows you to create width and also has a handy Mono button to see what your track sounds like with left and right combined and will highlight any phasing problems.

Anyway, hope some of this helps.

Emorton1980
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*Quick Update*. Thank You

*Quick Update*. Thank You JHSound and RobFarley for such a timely response. I wasn't expecting that so I apologize for not getting back sooner. For starters, It would have been more helpful on my end if I had provided more info related to my issue so my apologizes for that as well.
I've been pretty flustered and it's my own fault because I've been using Caustic on my laptop when I'm at home and as I just found out that there is no support for Windows.So I honestly feel that my issue is directly a result of that. Just as a test I emailed myself one of the problem tracks which I then downloaded to my phone and when I exported it, the audio dropouts were not present. Back when I first started using the app, it was strictly on my phone. But as time passed I was sick of looking at my tiny phone while composing and that was when I found out about the Windows app. I thought, hey this is cool and its free! So I went out and bought myself a midi controller and from that point on, I never used my phone again. Not for that anyways.
I do look at this as a learning experience because I went ahead and downloaded the Mastering App which I'm really impressed with. I also stopped using the limiter in the master effects section per your recommendation. Don't laugh but it was a little confusing at first but spending some time getting familiar with it and now I really like it.
Is the mastering app ever getting ported out to Windows? If not, no big deal but I really think in would be a nice addition.

One last thank you. I really appreciate the help.

Happy Thanksgiving!

RobFarley
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Ah, if it's on your laptop

Ah, if it's on your laptop check your audio drivers. On my PC at home I had the whiz bang B&O audio drivers which had a really agressive compressor on it. I needed to unistall those drivers and get some defaul audio drivers to make sure it wasn't doing that.