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Creating realistic choir sounds

Simple trick, using the principle of 'blurring' a wav file. Got the idea after using my new fl studio and blurring a waveform. I watched a vid on how to do this. So I recreated it in caustic.

Basically record yourself ahhing, and then normalize so the volume is low.

Then copy the whole waveform, move the cursor a bit and paste mix it.

Do this a few times and play it back, and there is a nice chorusing choir sound.

Then eq it, add effects and go wild.

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I've tried a similar method,

I've tried a similar method, but ended up ripping a choir sample from the track "Tokyo" on the Resident Evil: Apocalypse soundtrack & clipping/ stretching the waveform. It's a good one.

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I do similar stuff with

I do similar stuff with different percussive samples, but thats one I didn't think of, cheers! my latest fun trick with the sample editor was clipping the hit off a rattly snare sample, doing a little fadein-fade out amplify rinse repeat, adding bitcrusher fx, eqng, pitch bending, back to the fadin/out bit, boom. awesome shaker.

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Likewise, I'll try it with

Likewise, I'll try it with percussive sounds too!

Yeah I enjoy adding effects to my waveforms, gated reverb is very easy now. It's an extremely valuable asset to add fx to individual waveforms.

I tried ir with other samples, it doesn't always have amazing results. But it can of course have nice results if it's a monophonic sample that is constant...

I make creative EDM utilising Caustic and many other Daws. See for yourself on my SoundCloud, you may like it :) https://soundcloud.com/xandyaudio thanks!

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Actually this method doesn't

Actually this method doesn't do much of what you want at all, multiple voices add multiple harmonics and you can't get that from this method. What you get is phase cancellation which can be nice but you need to be careful with it. 

What you should do instead is record your voice multiple times and vari your voice slightly every take. Imitate other people, use different pitches,  and whatever.  This will yield better results trust me.

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That's quite hard to achieve

That's quite hard to achieve in caustic... Since recording replaces the active wav file.

I know the science behind it so obviously I won't be using this for low end sounds (unless it sounds good). I don't see the harm in using phase cancellation on choir type sounds, what's the worst that could happen?

I make creative EDM utilising Caustic and many other Daws. See for yourself on my SoundCloud, you may like it :) https://soundcloud.com/xandyaudio thanks!

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Well, with the new merge rack

Well, with the new merge rack function in C3.2 you can layer as many recording takes you want. And you can balance the levels, pan takes differently and so on. That way you can get really nice samples to work with ;).

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Oh yeah, that's actually

Oh yeah, that's actually pretty eye opening. I tried what you said just now with good results. I also tried reversing waveforms.

BTW, phase cancellation will introduce different harmonics I hint because the wav will change shape based on where the waves clash.

I actually heard a ghost note harmonic when I did a test just now.

If you do it too much it has a metallic rattle to it, so you have to space out the delay, and eq out most of the high end afterwards for it to be listenable.

I make creative EDM utilising Caustic and many other Daws. See for yourself on my SoundCloud, you may like it :) https://soundcloud.com/xandyaudio thanks!

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Right, cancellation is a good

Right, cancellation is a good thing in sound design indeed. I use it a lot to get nice sounds out of the subsynth etc especially If it's not synced, that creates Interesting movement to the sound. But It can also be your worst enemy if it's out of control,  like when some notes gets too weak to cut trough your mix and others so loud that they hurt your ears. Mixing such sounds require good compression and surgical EQ'ing and that's hard to do within Caustic at the time.

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I agree wholeheartedly with

I agree wholeheartedly with pan65!!! In how two get a controlled sound.

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I tend to do my audio editing

I tend to do my audio editing in Audacity, so this sort of thing would be very easy to do.
But I suppose one could do it in Caustic by loading multiple samples into the PCM, playing them out as a chord (up to 8 at a time), and exporting as a WAV.