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mastering without compression??

ok before I start this I know that mastering on a PC daw is way better than mastering on a mobile. if you even out the sounds in the mixer then lower the sound in the master volume then bring up post a little bit you will have a boosted track without needing to lower every pass from your track by using compression but compression is still good as for my track is still distorted in the PC daw world.also if anybody on here can figure out how to use compression which lowers the sound and takes away the distortion and still boost the track up then tell me please lol this is not studio quality to me but it's still good for mobile production. its a tip if you try what i said

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evening out the lowpass, high

evening out the lowpass, high, a mid, takes up many slots so this is my alternative

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lastly when i say even out i

lastly when i say even out i mean dont let your kick, bass, and snares be soft and other sounds overpower them

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there r quite a few threads

there r quite a few threads dedicated two mastering.... if u r new two the forum. welcome. but the main individuals who really can give the best input r those dat may not answer right away. but their advice on compression and mastering is saturated all thru out this forum just search these topics
i'm sure details of this app. and of mastering compression mite be something extra u mite learn from a mobile perspective as well d.a.w. perspective.

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for compression
http://www.singlecellsoftware.com/node/10557

i did lil more research within the forum and there is a few threads on ( side chain compression, ) ( channel strip compression, ) and ( modular compression. )

type these in the search box. something will peek your interest two your trk.

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if u type in mastering in the forum u will get quite a bit of the same. maybe somebody will respond of quality dat has helped someone before. but.... if u know what u doin' on the mastering tip. and u wanna test how it sounds thru another app.

audio evolution.

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i listen two your trk.

i listen two your trk.

i like it!!

but what u got is your lows r leaning more pan left. than balanced.

your feeling of distortion is leaning more pan right with more treble heavy on the right.

now audio evolution (( a.e. )) will help. but it is something u gain alot of desktop plug ins for mobile at mobile prices. just a headz up

and ohh a.e. has no multi pressor as of yet. if i'm wrong let me know. i've not used it inna while cause sooo caustic will be testing a mastering caustic app. just as soon as the current beta if official.

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i knew it was just me hearing

i knew it was just me hearing the distortion huh just needed a second opinion also ill wait for the app to come out or buy the one that's already out. and I'll take the considerations of other methods for mastering and caustic

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I've never even tried

I've never even tried mastering through Caustic. I just throw it into FL Studio and do my business there, but you said doing it all through Caustic, so I'm no help here :(

Gynj

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Yo great track here :) I see

Yo great track here :) I see a lot of sub standard stuff on the forum but I see lots of potential here, great sense for melody and great style... You'll go places bro.

For mastering... Usually saturation on the lowest setting with pre up a bit and the limiter barely even doing anything, and then clip the rarest of peaks (only so much that it goes red maybe every 5 seconds or so, but never clip in calm parts) and this should give a squashed waveform with plenty of energy... At least in my case.

Really like the track bro!

I make creative EDM utilising Caustic and many other Daws. See for yourself on my SoundCloud, you may like it :) https://soundcloud.com/xandyaudio thanks!

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I hear a bit of distortion

I hear a bit of distortion too, don't worry too much about it. Followed you on soundcloud and I recognize your other tracks from YouTube! Cool

I make creative EDM utilising Caustic and many other Daws. See for yourself on my SoundCloud, you may like it :) https://soundcloud.com/xandyaudio thanks!

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I usually only master

I usually only master collaborations with FLStudio. I think Caustic offers you the tools to do it quite well already, and keep that kind of "Caustic sound" we have already talked about. Mastering have been already discussed often like derrtiblu said.

With my little experience I may be wrong, but I think that the three band EQ is definitely enough if you EQd your other channels well. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong with this. I rarely use a compressor on the master channel, and if so, only to achieve a certain sound (e.g. to emphasize a certain part of a certain sound) Maybe that's the reason why most of my songs are quite quiet on soundcloud although I normalize them...

Feeling collaborative or just need help? You can always message me: einsyui@gmail.com
I'm also always happy about messages on soundcloud!" --αlpha Yui
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I stopped using compressors

I stopped using compressors as soon as you told me that too, I realized that when I was using them I was not using them because it gave me the sound I wanted, I was doing it because that's what the 'pros' do. Usually it was just pumping my tracks and usually making it quieter not louder... My songs are quite loud (at least I think they are) just by using the saturation, and it gives me a warm tone so it seems to work for me...

I make creative EDM utilising Caustic and many other Daws. See for yourself on my SoundCloud, you may like it :) https://soundcloud.com/xandyaudio thanks!

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Compression is a handy tool,

Compression is a handy tool, and is quite necessary for achieving a balanced output of tone and rhythm for most styles made from such a platform of workstation as is with Caustic.

Great start with your track; I would continue to work on it to refine your sonic footprint and dynamics.....

Welcome to SCS sir

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cool track, but yes there's a

cool track, but yes there's a bit more distortion than what most would consider acceptable in the low end, not a huge deal... BUT while putting some time into my mastering app, would you mind sending me the source file (.caustic) or just posting a file exported with the 3.2 beta and using the 32bit WAV setting if possible. I'd like to see what's possible to tame those peaks with what I've got now?

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his the raw version of it no

heres it i think. had to many files of it not sure if this is the lastesthttps://www.dropbox.com/s/3az0pyd3yxsa163/Inflexible%20spirit.caustic?dl=0 heads up i know im kinda lazy with automation lol

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rej is on your mastering app

rej is on your mastering app there is stereo imager to give the more spacey sounds on my mix?

create.

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Yes

Yes

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Christ.... I want this so bad

Christ.... I want this so bad hahahahah

I make creative EDM utilising Caustic and many other Daws. See for yourself on my SoundCloud, you may like it :) https://soundcloud.com/xandyaudio thanks!

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Rej's Mastering app has alot

Rej's Mastering app has alot of very useful tools for final authoring of your material..... just keep in mind, that, like any other authoring tool on any platform, you must feed it quality rendered material.  It is not a magic unicorn of a mastering suite...... Crap in = crap out.  Good in = Awesome out.

The cool thing is that you can experiment and audition so many combinations and unique setups, you can really do anything you want....  I really enjoy what it can do, and have used it for some things that helped create my upcoming PocketKit Platinum project.

Psssst...... you can use this as a limited sample editor, to enhance your stereo samples beyond what Caustic is set up to do, but that's another thread for another day, when the Mastering App comes up for alpha/beta testing when it's ready for that stage...

But the end result will be super awesome, especially for those who understand audio theory and want to be able to render out a final music file for instant sharing with a truly polished result.  It will be one of a kind on the Android platform, guaranteed. cool

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cant wait for it lol

cant wait for it lol

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Audio theory: check

Audio theory: check

Good music: check

I'll have fun :)

I make creative EDM utilising Caustic and many other Daws. See for yourself on my SoundCloud, you may like it :) https://soundcloud.com/xandyaudio thanks!

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well anyways for right now

well anyways for right now ill use a limiter instead of compression and raise the voulume then.I cant see the sound waves but i peetty sure my wave are peeking big time. thanks for everybody feed bck and i cant wait for the mastering app.

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aaaaaa i don't need n-track

aaaaaa i don't need n-track to master anymore!! actually i've found a good trick for mastering in n-track like emulating the multiband compressor last week, i want it so bad tho!!!

btw, what's the name of the app is it? "Caustic Mastering"? make it cool 8-)

create.

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idk if dat's been decided.

idk if dat's been decided. as if it has its been strictly not brought bout yet. cause its just not time for it. until we get beta 4 out the way of all bugs. be patient. breathe. peace.

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ezell.... trust me.  Using a

ezell.... trust me.  Using a Compressor module in the Master Section will benefit you much better than a hard-knee brick-wall Limter (final DSP in the Master audio chain)  That Limiter is mainly (in my opinion of course) a last resort clipping fail-safe for your final rendered track.

If you set it all up good and have a good clean mix, you can render out a decent "mastered" quality track all within the Caustic App as it is right now...  All of my content I've shared via SC and YT has been done just like that, no outside authoring tools used.

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Can't wait for the most

Can't wait for the most famous "mastering app"! :D

♬​ Lu!G