Hello caustic knights, Toxbox here.
I have been experimenting with waveforms for while and I discoverd something that will help others here to produce a more deep and cooler sound in caustic.
However this theory is not 100% accurate.
So if anyone can post caustic files here where they used only subsynth, bassline and beatbox. I wanna make sure that this theory works with any song. Before I post a final tip here.
Beleve me , if this works, you will get a perfect sound in few minutes.
So if anyone wants, post the files in coments.
The one example of this theory you can find in this song..
http://www.singlecellsoftware.com/node/12419
Take a careful look how the waveform used in subsynth makes the song so fluid and harmonic. And if you have the good speakers turn the volume on maximum to discover how deep this sound goes.
Enjoy..
Tip in development
Ok, I'll play.... let's take it up a notch.....
Caustic Song file (optional):
Hey Jason. You dont have to remix the song, how ever. Did you noticed that anything that you do on subsynth actually perfectly fits to anything else on other mashines? And did you take a look in the waveforms on subsynth. Every waveform is the same.
https://soundcloud.com/user-meleven/dimension-ten?ref=clipboard&p=a&c=1
I wanna try same thing on the other songs the songs where these mashines were used.
I wanna try this theory in total. Before I post it here. I want to make sure that this theory works. It will make caustic so powerful that other daws will not be necessary at all..
https://soundcloud.com/user-meleven/dimension-ten?ref=clipboard&p=a&c=1
My apologies if I'm derailing your thread here
Maybe I'm missing your targeted theory, but what I see is that one bass lead synth carries the mid-range and high character of body, and the LPF-filtered PCMSynth carried the same note structure but using fundamental low frequencies to carry your bass tone for a solid bottom. I've done this, and it works well.
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I enjoy things like this, because there are many ways to get the sound you like, and you developed one of them. I'm leary of linear-based delay lines for master signal management (I use convolver reverb for chamber spaciousness if needed for overall mix presence -- I wish Caustic had this)
I'll keep an eye on this thread, if you apply your method to some other tracks, I am curious how they turn out; because it does in fact sound quite decent (based on what I heard on your posted track)
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Thats just basic thing that I done here jason.
What I done here is took the frequencys from other mashines. In this example I took the frequency from beatbox, pcm synth, and sawsynth. Then added that frequencys ass a tiny waveform in to a subsynth. That gave a possibility to create sounds that perfectly fits to other instruments. It is a bit tricky mechanism to gain a fuller more rich sound. Advantage of this is that: you can create a perfect sound, loudness is automatically normalized, you dont have to use a compresor, turn volume of any mashine to maximum sound wont clip.
When you sculp this frequencys you will get many options.
But still. I am not sure how this can be of any use when the some keys on a subsynth are out of balance when the huge amount of noise is used.
So I am trying to find a way to remove the noise without destroying the orginal frequency.
https://soundcloud.com/user-meleven/dimension-ten?ref=clipboard&p=a&c=1
I haven't looked in your file yet but reading your description gives me the feeling that you are creating phase cancellation in various degrees. If so I would recommend you to be careful with that, it may sound really nice when listening trough headphones but when you run the sound through a speaker system you may not hear anything at all or you may hear a weak signal at best.
Here is the more simple example. The basslines have the frequency of the beatbox kit but in here I had use more complex way to gain that perfect waveform.
Caustic Song file (optional):
https://soundcloud.com/user-meleven/dimension-ten?ref=clipboard&p=a&c=1
Sounds like a multi-band compressor is in order, for achieving this in a similar method...
After reviewing your recent project file, looks like you're experimenting Builderz Style.....
I like your thinking, creative ways to make layered sounds, with independent character, and band seperation for more customized control over the combi-patch overall.
Yeah, keep rolling with it
Thanks jason.
What I did here in last example is hard to explain but I will try.
I have crated that beatbox present in the beginning. Then when I call it done and cool, I placed notes in a beatbox kit one under another. Actually created one shot sample from all the samples in the beatbox kit.
I placed that pattern in a song sequencer and exported it like song file. Later I have load up a pcm synth. Then entered in wave editor and load up fron a export folder that one shot sample that I previously exported. Croped the loudest part And change it speed using tempo change in sample editor. A speed it up so much that I ended with a straight line that goes ridiculously low under the line. To avoid the ringing when I press a not I lovered the line per two octaves using a pich shifting. Somhow line went up suddenly. So I left it there. Then added that line in to a bassline. Whar ever you do with this one shot sample is not wrong, but it must be short enough so you can add it in a bassline or subsynth.
The more complex your waveform looks, faster will go. And thats bad for higher notes :)
https://soundcloud.com/user-meleven/dimension-ten?ref=clipboard&p=a&c=1