It will be cool if caustic could be like this
hmmmm its awesome
From time to time we have heard some people here dreaming of Caustic's machines as VST plugin. I was one of those.
And following this dream, I made this VST plugin. And working on this one, I pushed the dream further and added 4 slots.
Vol, Pan, Decay, Punch (no tune, mute and solo at this time)
Play button as preview for each sample
Built-in global room reverb
Samples are mapped to GM format
VST 32 and 64 bits version, for Mac and PC
AU version for Mac users.
I have already made 4 drumkits : ODMX, LM2, AV, and Reverb set. ODMX and LM2 have some of the original Caustic samples, AV comes from Audiovapor samples.
This is not a translation of the original Beatbox. You can't load individual samples. It's a kind of Rompler filled with Caustic samples for Caustic users.
Now I need some beta testers...
OMG, i Iove this. I just started using Reaper this week and was downloading some VSTs to use. I got interested in darksynth/synthwave so I was trying to get some classic drum machine VSTs to use, starting with VLinn 1.0. I downloaded it and put it in the vst folder, Reaper recognizes it, I go to put it in, and, well, I'm not sure I particularly like the result LOL. The vst itself uses one track only like I expected BUT it created like a dozen other child tracks for each individual sample 0_0 A track for the kick, a track for the snare, a track for the hats (at least the developer was nice enough to put open and closed hihats on the same track!), a track for the clap... so on and so forth. The only good thing really is that it sends MIDI sends out to each track so that you don't have to write seperate patterns for each one, so that's good I guess... And I know that there are advantages to having things set up that way, like you can apply effects to individual parts instead of the whole thing, like maybe you want to up the bass on the kick but on nothing else or something like that. But I like how in Caustic you can have all your samples in one place, it makes things a lot simpler imo. Like imagine the PCMSynth could only take 1 sample so you had to clone it over and over to get all the sounds you wanted in, sure you could do more stuff with each one but it would take up a lot more space (screen wise) and be kind of annoying, at least to me.
So does this "beatbox" vst act like the normal Beatbox or does it do this (to me) annoying track spam BS? I'll probably get used to it eventually, but, I want my transition to be as smooth as possible in the meantime :D
@Rektafire, when I create a beat in Caustic for export to REAPER I split the drums into individual stems, because why wouldn't I do that?
This plugin you mention does that automatically? I think I want it. Eventually I'll figure out how to get MIDI working in REAPER and that will save some work, as I currently have to create patterns for each instrument when programming in Caustic.
@skarabee, I'd like to try out this plugin of yours.
@Rektafire: Track spam BS, lol. If you know me, you surely have noticed that I'm not a spammer. This is a real plugin. I have made it with one stereo output but I can do a version with multiple out for those who needs. I can even feed it with your own samples (wav 16bits, ogg) if you provide them.
You (and Steph too) can join me by contact form. Click on my pseudo > message. Tell me what Os and Daw you are using, I'll send you a test version.
By the way, I'm currently starting to build some other plugs. It will be a ambient serie with drones, clusters and textures. I also made a simple one from one of my stereo PCM preset, Arcopal. This one have 4 different samples that you can mix, with ADSR, and it also react to pitchbend and modwheel.
I think he meant "track spam" as in, the plugin created a whole bunch of new tracks in his DAW by putting each drum instrument on its own track.
@Steph. Yes I noticed, but I tried to turn it in a joke...fail.
Just sent you a version.
But it seems that we have a real spammer here. ^¨
(Edit: thanks Mike for the cleanup...)
Okay, got it loaded and making noise
I see you said "Samples are mapped to GM" but I'm still unclear on it since you only have 12 samples per kit and there are over 20 in the "GM Drumset" PCMsynth patch. I guess I'll just have to experiment some more. But it's a good start; ODMX is a good basic kit and more would be welcome.
(I'm using 64-bit REAPER in Windows 10 - Skarabee already knows this; I'm just letting everybody else know)
The actual mapping is GM starting from C1, with 12 instruments. I plan to change it to match the Caustic Beatbox mapping so one could make a track in Caustic and then export it to midi with the same mapping.
By the way did you notice that some drums are layered? Kick, Snare1, HH, have 2 layers, depending on the velocity applied.
Since this plug is made for those who want to continue their Caustic work on another DAW, I think it could be useful to have more detailed versions of our beatbox kits, at least for the acoustic drums. I will make layered versions for the kits I've send here in the past (BrushCat, and some others)
My research has found that GM drums start with the kick on C2 and go up from there. My Yamaha keyboard has extra sounds assigned to the drumkit patches below C2 just to have something on every key - record scratches, metronome clicks, snare roll, and even a couple extra kick and snare hits just below C2.
(It actually goes down to A below C1 - I wonder if the numbering is supposed to start with A instead of C, and Rej broke that when naming keys in Caustic?)
MIDI pitch is what is important. DAWS range between a few octaves when using things like C1, C2.
Middle C is MIDI 60, some say that is C3, some say C4. Caustic MIDI 60 is C4, Bitwig, Maschine, Ableton, MIDI 60 is C3.
My Yamaha keyboard has middle C labeled "C3". So the lowest C on my keyboard is C1, and the keys go down to A below that.
If you start the numbering with C, like Caustic does, what is that lowest key... A0?
Yeah A0 on your keyboard, Caustic's lowest is obviously C1, which is C0 in my DAWs.
It's something I had to get straight when I started making content packs. :) I'm dyslexic so it drove me nuts trying to remember until I had this stuff in notepad++ for constant reference.
Send me a download link I will test it on logic pro x at my public library digital studio.
Other than this My person has no other way two test it.
Yes, some keyboards and Daws have mismatch about the center C. So to clarify things, in my plugins:
GM version is starting from Note number 36.
Caustic version is starting from note number 60.
@Derrti: send me a message trough the SCS board, so I will have your email adress to send you an AU version.
Filming with my cellphone with onehand, hitting drum triggers with the other.... I know I can do better, but it is BETA testing after all...
Is anyone still overseeing this project? I'd like to implement the use of my own sound sets but haven't gotten a response from Skarabee...