I made a new song again yay!:
So I spent a few days playing around with the subsynth and eventually made a melody with my created sounds. It's uplifting but has a distinct "ravey" feel I've been wanting to create for a while now. Hope you enjoy! Will appreciate any feedback
Caustic file: http://www.mediafire.com/download/zl6tbz2z7w575u2/SONG6.caustic
Really great mix and production, great synth sounds and automation. My only real comment is that the drums get a bit overwhelmed and lack a bit of punch.
Trance isn't known for great beats unless you count epic snare rolls but a solid bottom end may make it really take off.
Great stuff as always Mniip! I'd say more like late 90's European club music like PVD or Binary Finary, rather than rave, but that's semantics, this is quality.
My only criticism (and this is scraping the barrel!) Is that it maybe sounded a bit too full in the mid frequencies and a little low at the top end. But that's all I can come up with! Nice job!
I am on a different computer with crappy speakers and you made them sound good.
As far as the drums, I can't tell right now but as for the production and overall "gel" of the track, you keep out doing yourself I swear. I keep thinking about the first track I listened to of yours, the mushroom one.
Now that we are friends, I can honestly say I didn't believe you actually made that song on Caustic. Now if you could see me, I have my foot in my mouth and apologizing cause your music rocks. You are so talented with this gendre of music, great job.
I have no criticism, now you just make me want to compete with you in the upcoming new machine race. haha You bring out the best in trance. Don't fall for that cliche crap, listen to a lot of older stuff from the 90's. Its like listening to Led Zeppelin or Jimi Hendrix for guitar, they broke on through to the other side.
Anyway, rant over. I will play this one again.
Now I feel like Mr Picky in the corner I agree with Bojeroo completely, it isn't what I'd call rave either and PVD is an excellent touch point for your sound.
Maybe because I come from more of a techno and acid background I like more low end grit, rumble and noise.
I am not at all putting down critiques. I was just saying I love the low end techno as well as what he makes. And my only point was, the tracks he makes with the arpeggios are awesome from a composition standpoint.
Your talking to a Tool, NIN, Download, AphexTwin, Metallica, AIC, Soundgarden lover as well. I love dark music. In my opinion the genre he dabbles in is so close to pop trance you have to be really good to pull it off, and he does.
I was messing a little Mike but I do sometimes get a little nervous around critiques but I don't just want to simply say 'it's great' when someone has asked for feedback - I hope people have a similar attitude when critiquing anything I put up
I woudn't tend to think of Mniip's work as pop trance, (Hi Mniip!) maybe because it has so much musicality and depth. It's really that classic late 90's trance sound that was huge in UK clubs (and worldwide). When done well it's glorious stuff
Mniip -What really impresses me about each of your tunes is the way you treat Caustic like an instrument not just a tool, you seem to have an innate (alhough I'm sure you've worked hard to make it sound so natural) understanding of what all the machines do and what you need to tweak to get the desired affect, your automation always lifts a song and I think that's a rare talent.
And here comes mniip with another great techno track. Good work as always, I like the pads in this one
Yeah I hear ya. :) I agree with the critiques. Heh, other than what you said about the drum kick (which I can't hear right on the other speakers), all I have is good stuff to say.
PVD definitely had this and I know what you are saying about 90's UK. I listen to and have bookmarked a bunch of PVD radio sessions(Youtube) from 94-98 that I listen to extensively.
Wow..... just Wow dude, you really made Caustic shine with this track, by FAR your BEST production yet! Well done.
EIPSO Two Thumbs Up
great track.... the drums do seem to get a little lost in spots, but still very nicely done. as usual..
Thanks everyone, I did not expect so much amazing feedback ins such short time from the community!
@Bipidribait @bogeroo I agree with your critiques, thanks for pointing them out too. There is quite alot of "sub" frequencies being used in this song when the bass kicks in, it might not be audible depending on your sound system (like poor mike ), but they are there. Maybe a bit of EQing would boost the high freqs in places too.... But yeah, I definitely agree with the drums, maybe I could have made them a bit louder and adjusted the compressors respectively. But this song is very melodically based. Perhaps I could have used another beatbox, but I really wanted that noise sweep :D
...just waiting for those 14 racks and 10 new machines! I can't wait to learn about them and how they sound.
@Mike Thanks for the kind feedback! Yep, I listen to alot of early-mid 90s techno tunes. Stuff like PVD and Euphoria mixes is what inspired me as a younger child, I knew I wanted to one day have a go at getting that sound myself. But yeah, I'm always going around YT trying to find the names of classic trance mixes and so on.
@jblann1 Much appreciated, thank you!
@danjdob thanks! and yep, I guess the melodies were of greater priority in significance to the song, but it definitely would sound better with a bit more oomph in the drums.
Again thanks everyone for the swift responses!
I LOVE the style of music you create Mniip, every track's a winner! I can't wait to hear what you produce with all the new synths on the horizon.
I was just starting to go out clubbing in the late 90's, so 90's dance / trance is what I grew up with, (I have the film 'Kevin & Perry Go Large' in my head here) and that genre seems to be the only style I can create music in, despite enjoying / listening to a lot of modern electro music nowadays!
IMHO The reason we talk about 90's techno/trance etc is that back then they had the same limitations as we do with caustic.
Whether it was hardware romplers or slow computers, the artists had to "make" the music where today, the computers make the music and these musicians assemble these huge 30 tracked out songs with insane effects that eventually water down the whole point of the song they may have written.
I am a hardware groovbebox sequencer junky. When I found caustic in 2011 and got a hold of Rej, I begged him to let me interface with is audio on Android. I saw the same possibility of having a pure minimal workstation in my hands to develop.
No, miniip is the quintessential example of why Caustic will be here for a long time and empower some really good musicians with its 10 count paint brush set.
Like any Renaissance, artists will ALWAYS go back to basics once the current trend is to mutilated, cause that is what artists do, they get fed up with the fad.
Do yourself a favor and check out ALL of the Global Underground series with Sasha etal.
IE GU013 Classic Basslines and Progressive orginal!
Or Classic Northern Exposure;
PS The above sounds is what I am aiming in the next 2 years to make with caustic 3.
I agreed with Mike, less is more. In the late 80’s I had a studio based on a 8 channel tape recorder and there where never enough room for all the things I wanted to put in my songs. Looking back I realize that all my mixes where crappy and today I can make most of those songs with only 4 channels and it does sound better. When Rej release Caustic 3.0 I will probably never use more than 5 machines at ones but being able to switch machines during a song will surely improve my creations.
@MIke had a listen to both, and it definitely pins my interest. Gonna have to listen to it further later because I'm quite busy right now, but thanks for sharing them.
@DanSeb Thank you, I can't wait too :D
@Pan65 Yeah, very true. I have been able to produce thick textures from as alittle as 3 racks. I don't think anyone will ever need 14 racks simulataneously playing. But as you said, with 14 racks, there's plenty of space for that "extra" little sound you want without as much of a sacrifice, and also replace in some new sounds wtih the duplicate feature