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billymyersiii
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Joined: 10/23/2013 - 09:54
Newbie needing a little help!

Hello everyone, wanted to throw this out there and see if I could get some assistance/direction on how to get caustic to do what I wanted. I recently purchased the app with the intention of using it and a midi controller for live gigs with my metal cover band. I have just started looking into the first song that I will be using this on and having trouble recreating the sound that is on the song. I was hoping someone could assist with this. It is the intro keyboard part for Eyes of a Stranger by Queensryche. There are 3 pieces that are going on, the low pulsing part that seems to keep time, the voice samples (don't know if this is possible to trigger or sequence with caustic), and the notes that are going up and down. The keyboard piece is under a minute long and I've kinda got the tone and notes down for the higher part, the cymbal sounds are covered by our drummer and so is the acoustic guitar notes by our guitar player but getting these 3 keyboard pieces composed with right sound and setup are currently a challenge for me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. By the way I'm currently using caustic 3 rc3 but can go back to 2 if necessary.

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Joined: 07/13/2012 - 17:13
Since you have caustic 3 RC3

Since you have caustic 3 RC3 and have the unlock key for Caustic 2... have you thought about looking around for the midi file to Eyes of a Stranger, importing it and using the intro? You could use those sounds that you say are pretty close right? As far as the Dr David voice samples, yes you could load them in a PCM and have them play back . Caustic can do a lot , you just need to use your imagination.

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Thank you for the help. It

Thank you for the help. It seems that the import of the midi files that I have found still do not assist with getting the right tones for the instruments in question. I have no issue determining the beat, pattern, or even the notes, the real problem for me is getting the notes to sound as they do in the song.

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well without asking someone

well without asking someone to do the work for you, you could just search the internet for samples that sound similar to what you need...or..you could learn how to use the various synths and effects in caustic and try to replicate a particular sound...other than that i dont know what you could do...its kinda of tricky to get a studio sound exactly right...sometimes its best to not even try to replicate a sound exactly...create a sound that is similar but has your own unique twist...that way your not just copying someone elses sounds.

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i dont have midi so i might

i dont have midi so i might be seeing this differently. but what do you mean getting the notes to play the same way. because if youree using samples there are a lot of factors that go into it. the play mode for samples (loop, play once, etc.)  the velocity the cutoff filters the release and sustain. 

music
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Joined: 08/11/2013 - 21:56
well it is a cover. 

well it is a cover. 

billymyersiii
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Guess its all about training

Guess its all about training your ear to know what to listen for and learning the instruments. I can do this for bass, guitar, and drums but without the hands-on *feel* aspect of the instrument. New learning curve.

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Joined: 03/23/2012 - 21:32
So as not to get your hopes

So as not to get your hopes up on what you are wanting to accomplish.... MIDI latency with many Android devices makes live play in many situations undesireable, but some people figure out a way to make it work anyways....  This is a Google/Device issue..... the GNex phone offers the lowest latency at this current time that Rej has stated recently, and I concur, because I use Caustic alot on my GNex phone -- my Tab2 tablet yields a much higher latency, but it fluctuates after the 4.2 JB update...

Try a controller with it before you buy one, if possible..... live playing with on-screen keyboard will be a challenge, especially if you're on stage, and the excitement and blood-pumping rush going thru your veins, may also cause you issues with tiny on-screen keys..... I speak from experience on this.

Anyways, good luck, and let us know how it works out -- and maybe a video? cool

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Joined: 01/21/2013 - 07:09
or simply use Caustic as an

or simply use Caustic as an extra band member and use it to play sequenced backing tracks live?

Although that creates its own challenges indecision I can see it working well for intros but not during tracks unless you all play to a click track...

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Hahaha I've done the "click

Hahaha I've done the "click-tracks" before in a live situation..... you have to have a really good live sound setup and a good sound engineer who's not a butthole to work with you on that....   From my experience as a musician AND a soundman and live recording man, electronic instruments are the hardest to mix with the acoustic instruments, for a variety of reasons, some of which I've discussesd here on other threads, and created my content packs to prove my personal audio theory about.....

Using your device as a sequenced click track must be very well heard by your main drummer, so the rhythms match accordingly, especially when everybody starts playing, cuz it is verrrrry easy for your sequenced track to get lost in the mix..... make sure your sequence is very clear and defined with a good sense of rhythm in itself, with minimal delay and reverb effects applied....

Take it from a dude who's pulled it off many times before.... I may start another thread on how to properly setup your stage with your monitors and sound to maximise your playing experience in a stress-free enjoyable way. cool