I think caustic is a miracle, I'm now certain that it can facilitate any electronic genre! I've noticed that careful use of the parametric eqs can really enhance tracks, I am very happy with that!
this tracks is kind of old school jungle techno, it's in it's raw basic stage but am sharing to show you I'm not lazy and am crafting stuff!!!
And any non electronic genre!Look at jblann's stuff! Nice song,can't really hear any specific eq adjustments,but it sounds much more polished than my earlier stuff.A song that really used heavy eq adjustments is my shavers stories song but I think I might have overdone it a bit there.Oh,and the drums are brilliant,well done on those
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Thanks, just followed you on soundcloud, liking your dark basslines!
i think if each instrument used is tweaked according to need in the send fx rack and then the whole song tweaked within the master fx section, the job is done
now I know I can achieve quality, ill slow down and go for more intricate sequencing with automations etc
its taken me many hours to get to know caustic and it's worth it. It offers unprecedented complete mobile production for sure. In fact I'm still amazed how good it is, and the sheer potential all the instruments can offer.
add the automation features, the simple but effective sequencer and of course the fx and master fx...
im so happy and cannot thank Rej enough:)
yes, I agree that the more rock based stuff is very good too with caustic!
Really like the drum sound you've created there, musically it's not really my thing, I prefer more tune and stucture, but then that's me!
This may sound pedantic but that's not actually a breakbeat. To create a breakbeat you want syncopation, off beats, expression where you'd least expect it!
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Lol! Amen break is not a breakbeat? Isn't that like saying Starbucks dont sell coffee?
i think you are referring to drum funk used throughout a track rob, ill get to that in time..but the break used is actually a straight break, I'm presently focusing on the overall sound quality and in time, will produce more intricate stuff the best I can.
sorry my stuff is not musical enough or tuneful enough for your particular tastes and standards.. I make what I can, according to what I've grown up with which is hard dance type music, I've not been musically trained but appreciate most types of music...
if I hear things I don't like, or think could be done better, I keep my judgement to myself or contact individuals privately to comment lest public critique causes ill feeling..
ultimately my aim is to make music that I feel happy about, if others like or dislike is not my concern really....even if one person likes it then that is a massive bonus for me:)
I think you have mistaken my comment for abuse. It is nothing about my standards simply saying it's not my taste. Much like when people post jazz tunes too! I think the point of the forum is to hear positive and negative comments. If we all just slapped each others backsides we'd never progress.
Now, regarding coffee. A breakbeat is quite specific in its definition and your beat is basically a straight 4/4 so I'm a little confused by your coffee metaphor. Early prodigy has some excellent breakbeat examples. I'll happily talk you through the theory of it if you're interested too.
Anyway... Not hating.
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Man I really like that. Good one.
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Not hating either rob but your wording gave me the impression that you were a critic. If you are honest in your word then ill accept that no problem..
now about coffee...there is a 4/4 beat on the track but I also overlay the amen break on top of it. So there IS a break on it in basic form. We can argue till the cows come home about what is or isn't a break and I assure you that you are discussing this issue with someone who does know. I've been a Dj since 85, witnessed acid house, techno, hardcore, jungle techno then dnb and all that right up to the present day. Prodigy used amen break as did/ do most other people who use breaks. I'm astounded that you cannot hear the most widely known breakbeat on earth in my track!!
in regards to your other comments, I may have misunderstood you, but maybe revisit your original text and see from other perspectives how others might misunderstand! At first I took it as a diss ( especially the break/ coffee issue part), then I chilled and replied. But to be honest, emails and forums are full of arguments because of haphazard writing that gets misunderstood..
ultimatly, it don't matter but again, I don't really like someone telling me I don't know what a break is, especially when I directly used the most popular one!
google or YouTube amen break, listen then listen again to my track please
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Here rob, ill save you time and I'm not arguing about this essential point..
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qwQLk7NcpO4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqwQL...
OK I concede. My first listen was at work and skipped the bit in the middle where you had a break beat! The beginning and end are straight 4/4!
And... Back to my original point. The snare sound is awesome.
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Great!
if you read the genre tag- it says jungle techno, so named because techno (4/4) and jungle (breaks) are merged and alternated:)
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Goddamit Rob, get it together.
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I think RobF is kinda right..... A breakbeat usually holds its own. What you created technically is slow-hardcore.... which is simple breakbeats that loop on top of a four-to-the-floor main drumline beat. Breakbeat grooves especially for jungle/dnb type grooves, the breaks themselves hold the rhythms, and often get chopped up and make their own sounds and patterns (I have done some -- and just posted my two-year-old jungle type mix a few days ago -- shows how breaks layered together makes groovy jungle bliss)
Pretty groovy IMO what you made there.
In the end, you make your own sound, and stand by it, and will carry you far.
Nice work.... sounds 1992-ish
I just bought some fresh French Roast. Not sure if that helps. ;-) Like the drum samples, definitely an old skool sound there.
Ok, last from me on this one, and cheers for all the different flavoured feedbacks:)
I know what you are trying to say, I never disputed it was more or less than a straight break placed in the track...rob said there wasn't a break because he didn't listen to the whole thing
Here is one of my all time fave tracks, note how the break is placed , straight , no frills but simple is effective
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yImtNAsLKuk&sns=em
I guess I was indirectly influenced by this track being in my DNA
But I do appreciate the other uses of breaks and what you might be thinking of is something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6wz1YxQs3s&sns=em
Especially after 4 minutes in..
I think this thread has gone from wether I used a break or not to- how breaks should be used!
Breaks can be used in so many ways:)
Here is another example of how I use breaks straight, layered and interwoven with 4/4 beats ( I love combining the two...
http://soundcloud.com/zaclaurent1/girlz-on-pills/s-N1DiP
But at present, right now actually, working on doing straight "drum funk":
http://soundcloud.com/zaclaurent1/syncopate-this/s-Qkzur
Just give me some time...I'm still getting used to Caustics brilliant workflow/ feel:)
Zac, I think this has ended up as a discussion around semantics
From a genre/style perspective I listened to this last night and thought this sounds like 90's breakbeat techno 
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Yes...the tag says "jungle techno", unfortunately the track was not listened to all the way through by rob so he missed the addition of breaks, thus the discussion started and was totally unecessary..
im an old school guy so naturally that which I grew up with will influence what I make:)
I understand what Rob meant - he heard the four to the floor kick and didn't think the track could be called a breakbeat one.
But if I hear a track which is four to the floor but has sampled breaks/loops in parallel then to me it's a hybrid/breakbeat/techno track.
So semantics imo
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