there? there? there? there?....................
Yep,looking back,my part was quite a lot louder than everyones else,but the drums in the beginning did sound a bit harsh.It will truly be an art for skarabee to mix all of it to perfection!
Maybe the second round could rather be skarabee making mixes and each person requesting a change to the mix until the 15th mix where skarabee will add his unbiased final changes to the mix.Just an idea!
this doesn't have to be complicated, guys.
Yeah, doing it that way places a lot of work on number 15...
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I think for the next collab we do it like the first collab. 3 days a person, and then the last person masters it. People can make their own versions after that on their own.
This is the best way to go about it.
OK, I took Tyrinasoarus file, wich is my first mix with his track raised, didn't touch his tweaks, removed filter in HervéB's modular, and made some adjustments. I think that Tyrinasoarus's part is way too loud in the end, but if everyone agree, that's not a problem. IMHO, If everyone take is turn in the mix process and raise the level of its track, the result will surely become a mess. So, I won't make 15 mixes, as suggested by Celebzooz: I'm not afraid by perfection, I know I will never touch it ;-). But everyone can make a remix, that's a collab' project after all. I don't mind if another mix is selected for the final cut.
One suggestion for the next collab, maybe: I remember the collab1, no channel automations till the end, 10 FX slots available, and it worked fine, leaving place for the job. It's not really comfortable to do a mix when nearly all tracks are already automated, and FX slots, except for the master section, are filled, and some automated too. Remember, mixing can't make miracles...
This is a good point. I feel if we do our own automation, it leaves less for the mixer to express his creative touch with, and on top of that some might be offended if their machine is tweaked either by removing their automation or modifying it. It kind of makes the mixer go through the mixing process motions instead of letting them express their talent. I got a bit excessive with my automation, but I think it was because I felt the need to, since it was my first time doing this kind of thing.
I want the person mixing to be proud of their ideas, not fulfill an assignment.
personally i like the idea of the finnal person being able to make a valid contribution by allowing him to at least have control over automation if not more... im sure it wont sit well with everyone,.. but i think its fair to say that these collaborations, while fun, are not musical genius. should we be so attached to our parts that no one can be allowed to touch them?(no offense to all the musical geniuses) but id rather hear a cohesive vision thats kick ass even if my part gets played down, than one that competes to much amoung its individual parts and is a mess.
just my 2 ¢
Yeah, I mean, I can't mix too well, and when i feel froggy enough to try, I often don't consider the infamous ear fatigue. And while none of us (or all of us) may be musical geniuses, it still isn't initially a positive reaction I'm betting if your part is played down. Maybe that isn't the case for many of you but it was for me, at first... But then it almost becomes a competition at that point.
Still, getting back to the earlier Idea... Would anyone actually enjoy doing up to 28 mixes, possibly more? That would be a nightmare! I probably wouldn't want to even look at the Caustic app for months...
I agreed with Skarabee, I would even go as far as suggesting no FX allowed until the final mix for the next jam. Skarabee is doing a great job here trying to bring order to this cacophony of sounds we put there for him, having no FX-slots left and a lots of song automation isn't helping him much. Remember theres 14 machines in there and a lot of them are competing in the same frequency range, without FX slots he can't use filters to separate them.
Okay, so based on what I'm reading, then for CommunityJam #3, I propose the following:
i think that sounds pretty good..but i would allow song automation with the caveat that it can be tweeked by the person doing the final mix....here is my reasoning...lets say you have a long drone or pad that you want to evolve over the course of several measures...you should be able to automate peramiters in song mode to get the effect you want,....but..you should not have the expectation that your exact automation settings are written in stone, at the final mix down there maybe tweeks and adjustments made to tailor the sound...as long as everyone agrees prior to the creation process i see no issues with this...am i wrong?
Good point. I like that better actually.
If mines is to TURNT UP.... feel free to adjust it.
@cr: Are you going to be the post moderator for #3 as well?
Planning on it.
Am I doing a proper job?
I like how you've been handling it, just didn't want you to get burnt out on it, that's all :)
I just put up the post for Community Jam #3!
Hey, to sign up for Round 3, you should put out a nice plug for CR's new album on GPS! Groovin' tunes, I think would be a good support for a fellow Caustic Warrior. I hope to have a featured artists spot up on my site soon, and will blab about this too...
Well done Skarabee, you mixed a homogeneous composition !
(Thank you for having worked again on my machine)
@Caustic Replay : How did you recorded this beautiful pitch bend on measures 64-65 ?
So, Story continues on Round 3
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Created a pattern 2 whole-notes long.
I placed the note I wanted to start at right at the beginning of the measure, stretched it out to the end of the pattern, then placed the lower note starting a 1/16th note later, and enabled 'glide' on it. I also automated a comb filter to control resonance at the tail end of the drop in pitch.
Cool, thanks for this tip
And thank you for using that 'breaker rv' patch! I wrote a track that uses it pretty heavily, called 'transaxle'.
So cool !
I'm listening to it and i like it :-)
Awesome mix skarbee,and guys,sorry about my earlier post about 14 mixes,it would be a nightmare!
Very well done, Skarabee!
@Skarabee, nice mix, that was a challenge, no doubt...... Ok, so I decided to take a poke at it, and took Skarabee's mix and did some needle pricks here and there..... can you tell what I changed up a bit? EIPSO 15 Minute Poke...
Very good end mix, skara.
The only bad thing (from my perspective) I can't find my "get get get" sample at 1:19 any longer...
Funny you say that....I was just listening to this on the way into work, and the last thing I remember hearing is the 'get get get'.....
I think it might have been my remix though.
Maybe the end mix pushed the frequencies in other dimensions and I'm to old that my ears don't recognize these frequencies any longer.
Someone donates me a hearing aid...?
I'll revisit my remix of Skara's and see if I caught that, Gharwen...
Ok, it is in there, the sound itself doesn't have much foundation to really stick out, but this is mainly because of use of the Width Knob that was placed on your channel (I assume by you) the scream sample came through at a level I thought was good......
Now I feel like this track needs a name. Suggestions?