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James
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Pseudo Pattern Automation in Song Mode

Okay, song automation is awesome and so is pattern automation but it's frustrating not being able to automate the Insert FX or Mixer channels in Pattern Mode.

From an architecture perspective I understand why pattern automation is limited to the machine itself but it's a shame that you can automate the panning in pattern mode in the Beatbox but not the other machines (although you can possibly do it with the modular too using the controls on the rear panel).

So my solution is simply fake pattern mode by soloing and looping a machine (4 bars feels easiest to work with) in the Song Sequencer and hitting play and record.

Pretty obvious when you think about it but it's something that only occurred to me a few weeks ago blush

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   I don't understand this

   I don't understand this "fake pattern"  

 

Buuuuuuuutttttttt!!!!!!!

i make a phat beat!! My recipe "derrtiblu style" u can consider it! It's not copyrighted or anything just pretty basic!

 

1. ) Count the beat.

              As know the number of your strongest beat win u lay your beat. As well, your weakest!

As u would anything else u want, u got two have "layers"!!! If they match ok. But if they don't...... Endless ideas!! Who needs a template! Cause per 8 slots for how many kick-drums does it take two have a head-nodder??? 2 to 3. If u don't this organized u got two much not enuff in sync. Disorganized two not function properly as the idea should go. And if u trk up those 2 to 3 kick drums u got overkill.

 

2. ) i mean does a caustic warrior really use dat many beatboxes for an idea??? I got orchestra ensembles herre with just 2 to 3 beatboxes and ((( scoring it is my problem. ))) cause i can't my google two work on my player at all so forcing apps on the device is where i am at now. So any moment a device failure and crash of caustic. :( but back-ups.... Ohhhh yea' crunchin' on a twix)))

 

3. Circle of 5th. if u don't know what this is, u better ask google not me. Cause i will bloop on u. Cause any talent of music has two have spent time over structure of organize sound and how dat's done before really seriously being a musician. Tackling musicianship over what chords are. If the piano roll had more flexibility of polyphonic state i would have my strings more elongated i think. Dat what i'm looking for cause everything is just so blocked dat music does follow a block of space but....... The overlaps are not seemless. 

 

Herre's my main questions ((( since i don't make clear questions )))

 

4. ) but if i was two lay a partial beat, out of one of the beatbox machines i have operating. Could i not mix dat machine with an effect and will it effect song mode? As well pattern right?? But.... If i want the effect two not be on dat pattern or part of song, i have two duplicate dat whole machine right???? As don't it two complicated. ((( well dat fudges simple ideas. ))) and taking up more space caustic has room for. I use on average about 10 two 12 machines just for this purpose.

 

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The extra effects do have on

The extra effects do have on/off switches. I've never tried automating them on off in song mode but this may help if you can.

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James, I have done exactly

James, I have done exactly that many times in previous projects. Good tip.

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You can't automate the On/Off

You can't automate the On/Off LED Toggle on the Insert FX at the moment (Rej said he would look at this at some point, in 3.0 there was an audible pop when you switch the FX on or off) but you can automate the Wet/Depth/Amount control on all Insert FX instead in Song mode instead.

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yes

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths looks like a pretty useful and enlightening read, thank you.

I use up to 5 or 6 Beatboxes at times, because I want density of sound, and a wide mix of sounds too. I may have a dry-ish BB for kicks and snares, another mainly for the hats so I can add delay and reverb to make them roll, another if I want a clap with very long wet reverb as an accent to use occasionally - we all work differently and all work in different styles.

Automation can be recorded in Pattern mode - you're automating one machine at a time and only automating the controls you can see on the machine itself - for instance the filters on the Bassline, Subsynth and PCM or the Pan, Punch, Volume and Decay on a BB.

Song automation can be used to automate the machines as above but you can also record automation on the Insert FX per channel and the Main Mixer (EQ, Pan, Machine Volume, Width) and the Master Section where you could automate the two insert FXs, the Master EQ, the Master Reverb/Delay, the limiter and the Master volume control - automating the Master volume is great if you decide to fade out a track instead of ending it naturally.

You can't record automation of, let's say the panning and Insert FX for a Bassline synth in pattern mode. So switch to song mode, find the pattern you want to manipulate, solo it, loop it and then press play and record, you can now record pan sweeps in the main mixer, EQ changes, FX settings etc.

Because you're looping a section in song mode, it feels more like pattern mode and you're really recording automation at pattern level - so that's why I called it 'Fake Pattern Mode'.

Any automation you record in song mode will effect the machine it's recorded against, whether you're using the Piano Roll in Song mode or pattern mode to create the note data.

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automated on/off is good.I

automated on/off is good.I want it in Fmsynth for change algorythm selector and others.

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Another solution is to route

Another solution is to route the machine to a modular "input machine", FX being applied only to the Modular channel. Then you have to channels in the mixer, one for the dry, the other for the wet. Or better, use the Vocoder as wet channel: Carrier set to the source machine, only dry ouput, one note to play the whole length, and the carrier note (C1) control the Vocoder output, as a toggle switch. (FX have to be set to full wet). You can even place pattern with FX on your song sequencer.

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Changing an algorythm during

Changing an algorythm during play will surely introduce some glitches/artefacts. Better use 2 FM synths. Same glitches/pops could appear with FX on/off automation, that's why Rej didn't automate them. Automation of Wet/Dry is more fluid and doesn't create unwanted artifacts.