thaaaats a cool idea. maybe keep roughly the same concept as the community jams, but limit participation to five warriors per jam, each one takes a turn, passes it on, and it comes back through to each member for a second and third turn. in any case, I think the collaboration frenzy going on here is amazing, I can't wait until my living situation settles and I am able to get stuff done faster, so I can participate more, but nevertheless, I would be down for something like this.
If you're talking about an album rather than a collaboration. I think if we all put our tracks forward they'll be too many.
Really if you want to do it just pick 10 of your favourite caustic tracks and make a Soundcloud playlist, if you've got many more than that you're just doing to dilute the content and try and please everyone. Just pick YOUR favourite tracks, don't worry about if you're going to upset anyone who you've not included, you might want to ask the permission of the author (or get a couple of lines about the technicalies / insight into it), but frankly if they're up on SC to be played I doubt they'd be objection to getting more exposure.
The only other way would be to do it by vote, everyone puts a track forward and people will vote for their top 3 Eurovision style, so your favourite gets 3 points, then 2 then 1 points... From there you add up the scores, take the top 10 and put them in a SC playlist.
Hex means a 'Caustic Warriors' compilation (search the SSC forums - the idea has been kicked around a few times) - I think Jason was probably the first person to use the phrase...
There was an idea to have a free comp on Google Play with the audio and .caustic files - fitting round the 'show' and 'tell' theme of the forum.
One pitfall was around whether everyone could guarantee that the presets they shared as part of the .caustic file were 'theirs' to distribute (when you download/buy content you get the right to use it but not to enable someone else to use it for free - something Rob has mentioned recently too).
yeah. what James said. I can see the problem with sharing projects that use commercial packs, I think even mp3s or ogg could work. having many tunes won't be problem, it will showcase Caustic's versatility.
I see. That is an interesting conundrum though, uploading a caustic file with paid presets and such. That being said, my misunderstanding turned into a pretty neat idea, I might have to bring it to the collab forum when I get my crazy life into a place that allows for more music making.
However the idea of sharing an audio album full of the best, shiniest, daftest tunes that the community can create, along with the all .caustic files so people can see exactly how it was done and learn from it is way cool
So maybe we should think about this and work to create an awesome showcase for Caustic - basically you can use any preset that ships with the app, you should also be okay with presets DL'd from SSC and then any presets you've genuinely created yourself It's not like we're a talent free forum, plus I'm sure Jason, if asked nicely, may agree that he's happy for a few of his presets to be used, if they're used well in a choice tune or two. Nothing like a little bit of publicity to stoke demand
Don't assume that Zvon or Audiovapour would agree - they develop across a wider range of platforms, (and at the end of the day it's their licence condition that you agreed too). Same goes for Music Radar type packs - you have the right to use the samples, royalty free but you have no rights to re-distribute them either)
Agreed but it undermines the idea that people like Jason and Skarabee were so excited about which was giving the the audio and the complete song file(s) so people can pick it apart, deconstruct it and learn from it.
I'd much rather we went with the full 'this is what we did, this is how we did it, and you can do it yourself now'
it's a daily dilemma for some - a lot of files don't get shared because they use presets from other peoples packs, I don't just mean Caustic packs - given that the PCM Synth, Vocoder and Beatbox all accept .wav samples, the files could be from almost anywhere.
Rej is obviously very keen not to be seen to condone or encourage sharing content that could cause him problems, arguments, heartache.
That said, it's still a great idea so let's get to it Just remember, you're limited to presets from the SSC forums, ones you've (genuinely) created yourselves in or out of Castic or the ones that ship with the app...
Actually slightly off topic but many moons ago I suggested a competition where you are given a bunch of presets and you have to go do something with them. You can't add anything extra to it. Maybe be given a theme of "walking through a haunted forest" or similar.
It really forces you to work with boundaries, which I think can spark some really creative stuff... Might not be the best stuff though!
You could even limit it to the extent of just create a caustic track with all the available presets loaded up as a single tune. Then download and off you go!
Although off the back of it you could have a remix marathon!
I think the larger part of this picture is not getting the product on iTunes, Google Play, or etc, but getting exposure to it, or rather marketing it. If I've learned anything from releasing music to the online stores, its that marketing is the key, and it takes a lot of hard work.
I just finished writing exams, I think we can start with the planning/working on the compilation. what's going to be needed? who's willing to contribute?
thaaaats a cool idea. maybe keep roughly the same concept as the community jams, but limit participation to five warriors per jam, each one takes a turn, passes it on, and it comes back through to each member for a second and third turn. in any case, I think the collaboration frenzy going on here is amazing, I can't wait until my living situation settles and I am able to get stuff done faster, so I can participate more, but nevertheless, I would be down for something like this.
If you're talking about an album rather than a collaboration. I think if we all put our tracks forward they'll be too many.
Really if you want to do it just pick 10 of your favourite caustic tracks and make a Soundcloud playlist, if you've got many more than that you're just doing to dilute the content and try and please everyone. Just pick YOUR favourite tracks, don't worry about if you're going to upset anyone who you've not included, you might want to ask the permission of the author (or get a couple of lines about the technicalies / insight into it), but frankly if they're up on SC to be played I doubt they'd be objection to getting more exposure.
The only other way would be to do it by vote, everyone puts a track forward and people will vote for their top 3 Eurovision style, so your favourite gets 3 points, then 2 then 1 points... From there you add up the scores, take the top 10 and put them in a SC playlist.
My latest track on show and tell
My Soundcloud page
hm. I thought he was meaning tracks as channels or layers. CONFUSION ENSUES!
Hex means a 'Caustic Warriors' compilation (search the SSC forums - the idea has been kicked around a few times) - I think Jason was probably the first person to use the phrase...
There was an idea to have a free comp on Google Play with the audio and .caustic files - fitting round the 'show' and 'tell' theme of the forum.
One pitfall was around whether everyone could guarantee that the presets they shared as part of the .caustic file were 'theirs' to distribute (when you download/buy content you get the right to use it but not to enable someone else to use it for free - something Rob has mentioned recently too).
https://soundcloud.com/james-muir
https://www.facebook.com/james.muir.77
http://www.singlecellsoftware.com/node/1654
https://soundcloud.com/james-muir
https://www.facebook.com/james.muir.77
yeah. what James said. I can see the problem with sharing projects that use commercial packs, I think even mp3s or ogg could work. having many tunes won't be problem, it will showcase Caustic's versatility.
I see. That is an interesting conundrum though, uploading a caustic file with paid presets and such. That being said, my misunderstanding turned into a pretty neat idea, I might have to bring it to the collab forum when I get my crazy life into a place that allows for more music making.
However the idea of sharing an audio album full of the best, shiniest, daftest tunes that the community can create, along with the all .caustic files so people can see exactly how it was done and learn from it is way cool
So maybe we should think about this and work to create an awesome showcase for Caustic - basically you can use any preset that ships with the app, you should also be okay with presets DL'd from SSC and then any presets you've genuinely created yourself
It's not like we're a talent free forum, plus I'm sure Jason, if asked nicely, may agree that he's happy for a few of his presets to be used, if they're used well in a choice tune or two. Nothing like a little bit of publicity to stoke demand 
Don't assume that Zvon or Audiovapour would agree - they develop across a wider range of platforms, (and at the end of the day it's their licence condition that you agreed too). Same goes for Music Radar type packs - you have the right to use the samples, royalty free but you have no rights to re-distribute them either)
https://soundcloud.com/james-muir
https://www.facebook.com/james.muir.77
Agreed but it undermines the idea that people like Jason and Skarabee were so excited about which was giving the the audio and the complete song file(s) so people can pick it apart, deconstruct it and learn from it.
I'd much rather we went with the full 'this is what we did, this is how we did it, and you can do it yourself now'
https://soundcloud.com/james-muir
https://www.facebook.com/james.muir.77
it's a daily dilemma for some - a lot of files don't get shared because they use presets from other peoples packs, I don't just mean Caustic packs - given that the PCM Synth, Vocoder and Beatbox all accept .wav samples, the files could be from almost anywhere.
Rej is obviously very keen not to be seen to condone or encourage sharing content that could cause him problems, arguments, heartache.
That said, it's still a great idea so let's get to it
Just remember, you're limited to presets from the SSC forums, ones you've (genuinely) created yourselves in or out of Castic or the ones that ship with the app...
https://soundcloud.com/james-muir
https://www.facebook.com/james.muir.77
I'm down. let's get it started.
We can start with the planning for the compilation?, I was thinking we will need a theme for the project.
Actually slightly off topic but many moons ago I suggested a competition where you are given a bunch of presets and you have to go do something with them. You can't add anything extra to it. Maybe be given a theme of "walking through a haunted forest" or similar.
It really forces you to work with boundaries, which I think can spark some really creative stuff... Might not be the best stuff though!
You could even limit it to the extent of just create a caustic track with all the available presets loaded up as a single tune. Then download and off you go!
Although off the back of it you could have a remix marathon!
My latest track on show and tell
My Soundcloud page
I think the larger part of this picture is not getting the product on iTunes, Google Play, or etc, but getting exposure to it, or rather marketing it. If I've learned anything from releasing music to the online stores, its that marketing is the key, and it takes a lot of hard work.
Google Play! | Facebook | YouTube!
True..A good Marketing strategy will be needed. but I don't think it will be a problem if everyone gets the word out.
I just finished writing exams, I think we can start with the planning/working on the compilation. what's going to be needed? who's willing to contribute?
It's already in existance.
Caustic SoundCloud Group
It's not a 'Best Of...' though. I know this because my work is on there! :)
https://soundcloud.com/barking_mad