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supernaut
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Presets for Children (PVD version)

Ok. This is my first attempt to recreate a song randomly selected (Im new to electronic music) called Children (van dyk version). Im having difficulty selecting presets for the bass at the start of the song and the background/ambient synth starting at 1:25 of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QYH1p5PwZk. My goal is to recreate the song note for note and the exact sound effects as possible, for learning purposes.

All you caustic guys are so helpful so far with my previous posts. Cheers! :)

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Ah classic trance song! I

Ah classic trance song! I have heard so many of these remixes.

You could use a subsynth with a long relese and sine wave for the osc.

There is a little bit of modulation in it as well, you could set one lfo to volume.

I know a lot of "Caustic Warriors" as Jason puts it use sample and the PCMSynth but I'm kindof a synth nut with osccilators since all samples come from this type of generation.

I make a lot of trance and I can say the subsynth is very good at those tones. FM and Phase are very important for good trance bassline sounds.

Mike

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What's the preset name and

What's the preset name and the knob settings for this effects at 1:25? A found out that a lot of songs use this. It might be handy in the future :)

bojeroo
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Totally agree Mike. I use

Totally agree Mike. I use subsynths a lot in my tracks.

Jason
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At the top of this site page.

At the top of this site page.... PCMSynth Preset   OrgHouseBass1.....hot off the press made just for you.   Only looped the lower octave, as it only holds at low F.   Grab the Caustic Piano PCMSynth preset, its in there too..... click the "More" to show the entire list ---- pull out a little bass and alot of mids on the piano EQ, add stereo delay etc....

Korg M1 workstation (circa 1987) was THE KING of dance related synth tone generation, and alot of what you hear in this tune came from there..... pads, bass tone (the alternating bass can be made in Subsynth easy)  strings sounds, and the acoustic guitar --- Korg M1 baby.

Zvon has an acoustic guitar pack out, I can't remember if there was a free demo of it or not...

If you need extra machine space, I can go Builderz Style on you and make the HouseBass1 and the Synth layer bass in one preset for you if you like.

Great classic epic trance tune, still love hearing it even today... Robert Miles

I think I'm gonna have to explore the trance feel a bit more, Caustic can really do this quite easily... Builderz Trance?   hmmmmmmm

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@jblann1, Good to know those

@jblann1, Good to know those things especially for me who is just starting out. So many tips from you i could explore. Im gonna download the orghousebass1 preset. Yeah, i was thinking that i need more machine space or is it just that i don't know how to throw all those effects in the allocated sequencer. So i would LOVE to have that builderz style if its not to much to ask :D

What about the string/synth/ambient sound starting at 1:25? Having trouble recreating that on subsynthfrown

 

I think Builderz trance will be awesome when it comes out.

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Well for experiementing....

Well for experiementing.... try to open a new subsynth..... change the top wav type to Saw.....

Now drop in an Insert FX -- Flanger  Depth knob = 4:00   Rate = 9:00  Feedback = 2:00  Wet = 12:00

Next drop in a 2nd Insert FX -- Flanger  Depth knob = 4:00   Rate = 10:00  Feedback = 3:00   Wet = 12:00

Next feed that strip with Stereo Delay   Rate knob = 1:30  Feedback = 1:30   Delay Level from strip knob = 1:00

Strip EQ    Low knob = 9:00    Mid = 11:00   high = 2:00

See if that helps.....   I'll try to get the second bass sound for you later tonight.... I want to add more of the ping tone to the housy bass one.... then I'll upload the preset under the same name later.

The trancy bass tone itself is not the typical double octave sawtooth stab, but a mix of a Saw and Square wav.

Stand by...

Jason
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You're Welcome....

You're Welcome....

-- Children Caustic Song Setup..... just press play --   for ANYONE interested  cheeky

all sounds are included in the Song

House Bass combo preset availble at the top of this page for single preset .... Builderz Style

Jason
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BTW I created the SubSynth

BTW I created the SubSynth preset as described above... it's in the Song file

supernaut
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Great presets man, especially

Great presets man, especially the subsynths. Gotta be able to finish my work. Thanks much!