So I'm just trying something a bit different, this is a classic verse / chorus type song and is definitely in need of a vocal, however, I want to try to fill the vocal gap with sound other than vocal, furthermore give this an edge of electronica with a feel of blues about it. Oh, and the programmed guitar solo I know is sucky, probably going to look at plugging my real guitar in at some point soon!
I've gone for the big distorted drum sound because I think it gives is a good drive and everything falls around that, but this really is a first draft, just wondering if you think this should be pursued.
Critics welcomes if not encouraged as I really want some feedback, good or bad.
Cheers, Rob.
I liked the progression. I think you should finish it definitely. Sounds overcrowded, but I am sure you can fix that with some mixing. The drum fills need the velocity changed, unless your going for an electronic drum sound. I am sure you an fix that as I know you have in other tracks.
It's nice to hear something like this coming from you. (not sure if you have done some like this before, but it's at least the first one I hear).
The piano/drum break is my favorite part. As usual, you got a great drum sound and the bass sounds like a live player, which is what I think you are after.
What about swapping out the staccato electronic sound at the start for something different?
Its far from finished or polished, the overcrowding I think is too much delay on things, I've ramped it up quite a bit to blur the sound but on relisten I think I've overcooked it a tad!
Drums will always go through improvement, I tend to just knock out a beat with little variation just to get the groove.
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The electronic parts are important, without them it sounds flat and empty as if it should be played by live musicians and its just a cheap forgery. It started off as a gated sound which was ok but wasn't nearly fluid enough. The more gurgley sound is much better. Open to suggestions though!
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I like it! I look forward to hearing the finished draft:)
sounds real good definitely got the v/c style song vibe finish for sure already a great groove going on :-)
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Yeah, agreed that it would sound weird without electronic sounds. I found the gurgles to be clashy, and I think a different electronic sound might amp it up. Easier said than done. Also, because you said you were trying something new and I've heard that sound in a few of your jams, suggesting you mix it up. If that sound is how you feel it, ignore my suggestion.
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Hmmn, a slow Kasabian tune with slightly out of place, housey organ stabs?
Kinda psychy, definitely has potential, not too sure about the housey pianos either
I'd pump up that Organ - Fuzz it up a bit more, make that Leslie swirl. Maybe add some bubbling arps from the Modular, or use a Modular machine input with an Arp to drive a Bassline, on square wave, no distortion.
Think of the TB303 sound you hear on Alabama 3 tunes.
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Alabama 3, yes, that would be a good muse! I just want to watch the sopranos now though!
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OK, So taken comments on board I think... So this is a sort of remix of the previous attempt, it's quite different though.
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I like the first attempt better. Felt more raw, really liked the piano "interlude" and the progression of the song. The second is smoother, but I feel like it's taking me somewhere, but we end up in circles. My vote is for v1.
I agree with FISH, I like the first version better. It has more character. The second one is a tad too "smooth," sounds like some kind of TV series theme -- a Mike Post vibe maybe? Although that could be easily taken as a compliment, what I really mean is that it sounds a bit cheap. Like TV.
My only complaint about the first version is that everything sounds a bit too "flattened." I wish there was more relief, so that each instrument is more distinguished from the others.
Rob, what are the lyrics to "Safe From the Rocks"? I really wanna know.
The lyrics are pretty crappy spur of the moment stuff, did it in one take without really thinking too much about it. James came up with a vocality part early on that mentioned something about a storm. When /if I revisit sftr I'll write better lyrics and sing them better...
I will stop the ship from shaking
I guide you to the docks
I will hide you from the storm
And keep you safe from the rocks
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Interesting everyone prefers the first one... I prefer the second! Hmm... More work required!
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I like the bright, organic feel of the first version the best - sorry Rob.
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No need to apologise! Its interesting!
Need to bridge the gap I think.
I think the first one just sounds fake and should be played by a band instead, hence the lean towards electronic for the second version.
Maybe the lean was too far!?
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